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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:31 am

erolz66 wrote: ... The story of Cyprus as an independent nation and state is one of a singular failure of the two main communities


Wrong! There is ONE main community. It brought freedom to Cyprus from one invader, the British Colonialists. The minor community then stepped up to take the place of the British Colonialists and rule over the main community. Nope - not the done thing in a democracy!
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:34 am

erolz66 wrote:We refused to accept that you alone could deicide not just for yourselves but also for us that our country should not exist as a nation and state that we shared together following the end of British rule but would in fact be given to and ruled by Greece. That is not the same as refusing equality and democracy.


The "TC" community refused equality and democracy. The rest are lies and excuses to secure the lands you stole. If you were so "innocent" and "sharing" you would never have stolen nearly half of Cyprus and 80% of land belonging to Greeks and kicked them out of their homes at gun-point. Your community has PROVED itself! Thank you. :roll:

You are what you were.
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby erolz66 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:40 am

Sotos wrote:You were not merely asking for your wishes to be "considered"... you wanted the wishes of your 18% to take precedent over the wishes of the 82%


Sotos was any attempt made by GC leaderships in the 50s leading up to the end of British rule to say to TC that ok we want union with Greece you do not, so lets talk about how we can resolve this, let's negotiate. Or did they simply believe they had both the right and (mistakenly) that they had the power to enforce such on TC regardless.

I have repeatedly stated that I personally would forgo any bi-zonality, any bi-communality, any quotas, any separate representation with a unitary Cypriot state. The only thing I want is an acceptance that if you decide you want the NON EXISTANCE of a Cypriot state that includes me , you accept you can not validly claim that is a genuine expression of a unitary Cypriot people that includes me, because it seeks to end the very thing that unifies us. Yet even this is too much it would seem.
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby erolz66 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:43 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:The "TC" community refused equality and democracy.


No we refused to have imposed on us the gifting of our shared homeland to foreign rule. Cyprus only exists today as an independent state, all be it one still riven by division, because of that refusal.
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby bigOz » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:11 am

erolz66 - why are you even bothering to talk to this brainwashed example of a confused creature. Just tell her to get everyone who think like she does and come and get what she thinks was stolen from her. I will supply them with all the arms - else do not even take any notice of the BS she pukes out. In another life she was a key keeper at Auchwitz! How her kind has never become extinct I can never understand! A TOTAL FREAK! :lol:
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby Sotos » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:14 am

erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote:You were not merely asking for your wishes to be "considered"... you wanted the wishes of your 18% to take precedent over the wishes of the 82%

Sotos was any attempt made by GC leaderships in the 50s leading up to the end of British rule to say to TC that ok we want union with Greece you do not, so lets talk about how we can resolve this, let's negotiate. Or did they simply believe they had both the right and (mistakenly) that they had the power to enforce such on TC regardless.

What we said is lets have a referendum so we can democratically decide. Like the ones they had in Falklands, Gibraltar, Scotland etc. It was rejected!

I have repeatedly stated that I personally would forgo any bi-zonality, any bi-communality, any quotas, any separate representation with a unitary Cypriot state. The only thing I want is an acceptance that if you decide you want the NON EXISTANCE of a Cypriot state that includes me , you accept you can not validly claim that is a genuine expression of a unitary Cypriot people that includes me, because it seeks to end the very thing that unifies us. Yet even this is too much it would seem.


Erolz, what you would personally forgo is irrelevant... who has the power on your side is Turkey, not you personally... and in fact enosis is not something which is wanted anymore so if that was the issue then we would have come to an agreement long ago. But I don't understand what you mean by "unitary Cypriot people". We are two ethnic groups, different languages, different religions living on the same island. Was there a "unitary Cypriot people" during British rule? During Ottoman rule? Or is this thing something newly invented... or not yet invented and you want to create it?
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby bigOz » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:26 am

Maximus wrote:
bigOz wrote: I happen to be a CYPRIOT born and raised just like my great grandfathers. THIS IS MY LAND TOO! It has never been part of "Greece". On the contrary it was a part of ottoman Empire for near enough 350 years or so. GCs constantly make a mistake of judging land ownership rights by population. TCs owned or had the rights to 30% of land in Cyprus until 1963 attacks started off the war. As Cypriots, they also have right to their own land and separate state if they face threats and extinction by their fellow countrymen led by fanatic mainland Greek supported malicia (EOKA-B).


Make your mind up, are you Cypriot "Greek" or Ottoman "Turk"?

This changes everything to do which your statement.....Just saying.

NO! I am an one of the thousands of "Albanian skirt" wearing, Hellen soldiers, member of the Greek army, given CY passports by Makarios who liked boys in skirts - in an attempt to Greekfy the island throughout the 1960s! :lol:
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:40 am

bigOz wrote:
Maximus wrote:
bigOz wrote: I happen to be a CYPRIOT born and raised just like my great grandfathers. THIS IS MY LAND TOO! It has never been part of "Greece". On the contrary it was a part of ottoman Empire for near enough 350 years or so. GCs constantly make a mistake of judging land ownership rights by population. TCs owned or had the rights to 30% of land in Cyprus until 1963 attacks started off the war. As Cypriots, they also have right to their own land and separate state if they face threats and extinction by their fellow countrymen led by fanatic mainland Greek supported malicia (EOKA-B).


Make your mind up, are you Cypriot "Greek" or Ottoman "Turk"?

This changes everything to do which your statement.....Just saying.

NO! I am an one of the thousands of "Albanian skirt" wearing, Hellen soldiers, member of the Greek army, given CY passports by Makarios who liked boys in skirts - in an attempt to Greekfy the island throughout the 1960s! :lol:


Oh yes say's the person who wants to Turkify the island with the help of Poofy Turkish Soldiers!
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:41 am

erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:The "TC" community refused equality and democracy.


No we refused to have imposed on us the gifting of our shared homeland to foreign rule. Cyprus only exists today as an independent state, all be it one still riven by division, because of that refusal.


You live in a foreign boot camp.

C'mon, I swear "God" has a sick sense of humour!
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Re: The dark side of Greek'ness and Greek history!

Postby Maximus » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:08 am

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:The "TC" community refused equality and democracy.


No we refused to have imposed on us the gifting of our shared homeland to foreign rule. Cyprus only exists today as an independent state, all be it one still riven by division, because of that refusal.


You live in a foreign boot camp.

C'mon, I swear "God" has a sick sense of humour!


I thought you didnt believe in god !
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