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[Lordo]

only greeks do pork pies terggs no chance. lamb pies may be.

read this my dear.

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Clerides, in his memoirs, acknowledges that “a major mistake was committed by Makarios” and the Government in not accepting the advice the letter contained.

The letter correctly stated, Clerides admits, that Denktash had accepted all the "13 points” forwarded by Makarios in 1963, and in the bargain the Greek Cypriots were to give was local government in a separate, communal structure. The Turkish negotiators were willing to live with Greek Cypriot proposals with respect to the powers and functions of municipal governance, and hence, Clerides writes, “we were wrong to refuse the Turkish proposal,” which would provide that local authorities would be placed jointly under supervision of the president and the vice president of the state.

“Generally speaking.” Clerides continues, “all the advice given in the Greek Note was sound.” It maintained the concept of a unitary state and did not introduce federalism. It would have dealt with all the constitutional issues that provoked Makarios’ 13 Points in 1963. “The inexperienced Greek Cypriot leadership,” Clerides says, “not only rejected . . . the more mature advice of the ‘mother,’ but also accused her of having conspired with Turkey, behind the ‘daughter's’ back, to sell her down the river.”
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[GreekIslandGirl]

... and in the bargain the Greek Cypriots were to give was local government in a separate, communal structure.

Oh, so you mean to tell me they offered 14 points?

[Lordo]

trust clerides to leave out my first three amendments.

[repulsewarrior]

...so what you are saying is that Constitutional reform is like picking out a pair of shoes; the first ones you try on are the ones you end up choosing.

[Lordo]

no no rw there was none left. the other three i made up just to amuse the greek lady.

the constitution amendments wanted by makarios was 13 and 13 he got. the 14th is what clerides was asking. i cant see the tcs just offering it without being asked.

there is one that was missing and makrios would have dearly loved to ask for and did not have the balls to ask for.

can you guess what it is yet? i bet cleo can.

[Tim Drayton]

I predict Akıncı will get about 2/3 of the vote and Eroğlu 1/3.

[B25]

I predict Akıncı will get about 2/3 of the vote and Eroğlu 1/3.

Really who cares, different name same shit!

[Lordo]

I predict Akıncı will get about 2/3 of the vote and Eroğlu 1/3.

i am not so sure. he will get ctp votes but ozersay is sitting on the fence and refusing to take sides. apparently his votes were mainly young ubp voters. i cannot see how they will vote for akinci. i do hope you are right though.

you may not care b25 but there is a lot of people who do including some of your mates. they are praying eroglu comes to power so we do not have solution. of to church my mentally challenged greek friend.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I predict Akıncı will get about 2/3 of the vote and Eroğlu 1/3.

Really who cares, different name same shit!

TCs living on Greek inheritance, Greek rights, Greek humanity. TCs having nothing that is actually *theirs*. Sad cases playing stupid games of *politics* to pretend they have any importance in a stolen region!

[Lordo]

you dont belong in cyprus. your mind and body is greek.