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Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:52 am

i wonder why america does not see saudi arabia as she is. is it to do with oil. why is there no fuss made about this shining example of free speech and equality.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/01/13/saudi-arabia-increases-jail-sentence-for-human-rights-lawyer/
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:55 am

Lordo wrote:i wonder why america does not see saudi arabia as she is. is it to do with oil. why is there no fuss made about this shining example of free speech and equality.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/01/13/saudi-arabia-increases-jail-sentence-for-human-rights-lawyer/


It's terrible, it's nearly as bad as Turkey!
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:59 am

that is not the question, why does america back this monster. that is the question.
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby B25 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:00 pm

Lordo wrote:that is not the question, why does america back this monster. that is the question.



Same could be said for Turkey (monster), why does the US tolerate this Turkish shit?????
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:54 pm

B25 wrote:
Lordo wrote:that is not the question, why does america back this monster. that is the question.



Same could be said for Turkey (monster), why does the US tolerate this Turkish shit?????


Because Lordo thinks his shit doesn't stink! :lol:
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:55 pm

Your question is highly pertinent. The answer, I am afraid, can be summed up in one word: 'oil'.
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:09 pm

B25 wrote:
Lordo wrote:that is not the question, why does america back this monster. that is the question.



Same could be said for Turkey (monster), why does the US tolerate this Turkish shit?????


Hopefully a few more will be asking this very pertinent question, bearing in mind the hypocritical stance of Turkey on Press Freedom.

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_tgc-head-freedom-of-press-in-turkey-in-worst-downturn-of-last-60-years_369489.html

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_94-journalists-critical-of-govt-denied-permanent-press-cards_369595.html
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:18 pm

Of course, there is an alternative argument that this is all a question of the right of self-determination. One could argue that the Saudis are perfectly entitled to live under an absolutist monarchy and mired in the dark ages, with all forms of thought that deviate from the established Wahabbist interpretation of Islam persecuted as heresy. On the other hand, under this same argument, a country such as France, the home of Voltaire, is equally free to flourish as a democratic, pluralistic, multicultural country in which the right to free expression of peoples of all faiths and none is guaranteed. Three and a half million French people demonstrated yesterday that this is the popular will in their country.
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:29 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Of course, there is an alternative argument that this is all a question of the right of self-determination. One could argue that the Saudis are perfectly entitled to live under an absolutist monarchy and mired in the dark ages, with all forms of thought that deviate from the established Wahabbist interpretation of Islam persecuted as heresy. On the other hand, under this same argument, a country such as France, the home of Voltaire, is equally free to flourish as a democratic, pluralistic, multicultural country in which the right to free expression of peoples of all faiths and none is guaranteed. Three and a half million French people demonstrated yesterday that this is the popular will in their country.

and yet trade with saudi arabia with no guilt.
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Re: shining example for freedom of speech

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:
B25 wrote:
Lordo wrote:that is not the question, why does america back this monster. that is the question.



Same could be said for Turkey (monster), why does the US tolerate this Turkish shit?????


Because Lordo thinks his shit doesn't stink! :lol:

you are the expert. if anybody knows what shit smells like, you should know.
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