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[Garavnoss]

A rather obscure story about the Mighty versus the Weak (and there are many variations) cites the fable that an Elephant and a Mouse once came to disagree about a certain territorial matter.

Neither had ever seen each other before and the Elephant was convinced that his size would be his biggest asset in any battle as he strode toward the designated place of confrontation.

The Mouse went boldly forth and upon seeing the Elephant approaching, decided that a hasty retreat would serve him best and he scurried behind a tree and concealed himself.

The Elephant arrived at the appointed place and did not see any sign of an adversary so he relaxed and began to pluck the grass at the base of the very tree that the Mouse was hiding behind.

Suddenly, the Mouse ran out of it's hiding place and the Elephant stepped sharply back and raised his trunk (it is suggested that this action exhibited fear on the Elephant's part that the Mouse might run up inside his trunk).

It's a kind of "David v Goliath" story and is quite common among some African tribes folk when they teach their young the virtues of bravery when faced with an enemy equipped with an overwhelming force.

Such "Philosophy" as one might recognize in this rather silly tale has also been heard among certain "Jihadi" groups, it may sound a bit off kilter but, if one imagines the American (and allies) to be the Elephant and the Jihadis the Mouse, I am certain that we must ALL agree that the Jihadis are certainly making a good job of getting (metaphorically) right up the Elephant's trunk, it really must be quite annoying.

OR, subsequent to the assault on "Pearl Harbour" when the Japanese attacked the American fleet, Admiral Yamamotos remarked that he feared the action would only serve to "Awaken a sleeping Giant" and he was quite right in that the outcome was horrific.

Equally, it could NOW be said that the Americans have disturbed a "Hornet's Nest" and it would appear that they will also pay the price for their mistake, more so than the Japanese perhaps since ONE "Giant" would be no match for THOUSANDS of angry "Hornets".

Moral:- "Pack your Trunk" and leave the "Hornets" lands e're they invade and make YOUR life as much of a misery as you made theirs.

[Garavnoss]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

[miltiades]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

And you are showing your stupidity with each post you make.
Shall I tell you where to go ??
Yes I will
Fuck off stupid !

[Garavnoss]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

And you are showing your stupidity with each post you make.
Shall I tell you where to go ??
Yes I will
Fuck off stupid !

You obviously do not have an Alma Mater, poor sap, you will probably die as you have lived, in total ignorance.

[Lordo]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

the reason why they will win is because it is too simplistic to reduce this struggle to just is against the west. a lot of muslims are sick of american presence in the middle east and everybody is putting them in one basket, which is a mistake. there are genuine problems with american activities and it suits america to have isil there to cover what they get up to. in reality america and israel armed them when they were part of the rebels against assad. the people of the middle is will not be defeated.

as to what the old fool says when he claims these people deserve dictatorship just goes to show he is out of his depth.

[Garavnoss]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

the reason why they will win is because it is too simplistic to reduce this struggle to just is against the west. a lot of muslims are sick of american presence in the middle east and everybody is putting them in one basket, which is a mistake. there are genuine problems with american activities and it suits america to have isil there to cover what they get up to. in reality america and israel armed them when they were part of the rebels against assad. the people of the middle is will not be defeated.

as to what the old fool says when he claims these people deserve dictatorship just goes to show he is out of his depth.

History has shown ( many times) that Guerrilla fighters are the most difficult to bring under control, ultimately they usually win.

Not that the opposing force readily admits defeat, they often negotiate under some treaty or other and manage to quietly extricate themselves from the battlefield in order to save face...., it is always a very expensive lesson to learn but it serves it's purpose.

However, the situation with the IS forces is proving to be a little different on account of it's support from so many regions, it is not so easy to negotiate with fighters who will not surrender, they do not need to for a simple and perfectly understandable reason, all of them have taken a sacred vow (to Allah) to win... or die trying, such a mind-set is undefeatable and everyone knows it.

The future is looking grim in the Middle East (and other places), someone has disturbed the "Hornet's Nest" and the BUZZZZZZZZ will be heard in many places far from the battlefields.

The "Stings" will be sharp and painful and anyone with any sense should, rather than join the Western forces, run for the hills !!.

[Paphitis]

Further to the first showing of this post, it seems that IS have got right up the elephant's trunk in the past week or so.

Their strategies are working and I would hazard a guess that they will never be defeated, they have too much belief in their cause.

The "Hornets" are a-buzzing all around us and the sound is getting closer and louder.

the reason why they will win is because it is too simplistic to reduce this struggle to just is against the west. a lot of muslims are sick of american presence in the middle east and everybody is putting them in one basket, which is a mistake. there are genuine problems with american activities and it suits america to have isil there to cover what they get up to. in reality america and israel armed them when they were part of the rebels against assad. the people of the middle is will not be defeated.

as to what the old fool says when he claims these people deserve dictatorship just goes to show he is out of his depth.

History has shown ( many times) that Guerrilla fighters are the most difficult to bring under control, ultimately they usually win.

Not that the opposing force readily admits defeat, they often negotiate under some treaty or other and manage to quietly extricate themselves from the battlefield in order to save face...., it is always a very expensive lesson to learn but it serves it's purpose.

However, the situation with the IS forces is proving to be a little different on account of it's support from so many regions, it is not so easy to negotiate with fighters who will not surrender, they do not need to for a simple and perfectly understandable reason, all of them have taken a sacred vow (to Allah) to win... or die trying, such a mind-set is undefeatable and everyone knows it.

The future is looking grim in the Middle East (and other places), someone has disturbed the "Hornet's Nest" and the BUZZZZZZZZ will be heard in many places far from the battlefields.

The "Stings" will be sharp and painful and anyone with any sense should, rather than join the Western forces, run for the hills !!.

You must desist from referring to America alone. There is an international coalition of some 60 odd nations, many of which have deployed forces to Iraq and Syria. This is not a unilateral action by the USA. Cyprus is also part of the coalition as other many Arabic Nations who are taking a leadership role.

Secondly, we are fully aware of the warfare tactics employed by the enemy, and are prepared to remain there for the long haul if necessary. I should suspect, that once the boots on the ground are deployed, it will be over very quickly.

Further to this, there is no chance of entering into any treaty or even negotiating with IS. That can never occur.

[Lordo]

no it aint, america forces other countries to join so stupid people like you can swallow the myth.

[Paphitis]

no it aint, america forces other countries to join so stupid people like you can swallow the myth.

Oh really?

And how do they force other countries to join?

[Garavnoss]

no it aint, america forces other countries to join so stupid people like you can swallow the myth.

Oh really?

And how do they force other countries to join?

A little financial "Trampling" perhaps ?, there is a well known Eastern saying (used when a rich man enters a poor man's home) which may have some bearing. "An Elephant has entered our home and will soon cause havoc !".

Possibly connected with a Landlord /Tenant (or some such) situation, an illustration of how wealth and stealth can impose it's will.