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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:14 pm

miltiades wrote:You may introduce many phantom voters as you preciously did, however in any given poll I would beat you conclusively. Go ahead and ask how many forumers support ISIS and think that they deserve credit for their courage. The very thought makes me puke, so I shall reiterate once more,
Fuck off .



I think it might be quite interesting to discover what members truly think.

Go ahead and advance your polls, if you have the "Courage" to do so of course.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:28 am

Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:You may introduce many phantom voters as you preciously did, however in any given poll I would beat you conclusively. Go ahead and ask how many forumers support ISIS and think that they deserve credit for their courage. The very thought makes me puke, so I shall reiterate once more,
Fuck off .



I think it might be quite interesting to discover what members truly think.

Go ahead and advance your polls, if you have the "Courage" to do so of course.

Why don't you start it, after all your threads do not attract hardly any interest, this poll might just do so.
Go ahead Stupid, Im waiting
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Garavnoss » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:48 am

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:You may introduce many phantom voters as you preciously did, however in any given poll I would beat you conclusively. Go ahead and ask how many forumers support ISIS and think that they deserve credit for their courage. The very thought makes me puke, so I shall reiterate once more,
Fuck off .



I think it might be quite interesting to discover what members truly think.

Go ahead and advance your polls, if you have the "Courage" to do so of course.

Why don't you start it, after all your threads do not attract hardly any interest, this poll might just do so.
Go ahead Stupid, Im waiting



I have no need to ingratiate myself in the same fashion as do you.

I have noticed that your "Polls" invariably end without a satisfactory conclusion and I would not wish to offend you.

I am quite a "Civil Chap" you see, perhaps a leaf out of MY book would be advantageous to you..........."Insha Allah". :lol:
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:01 am

Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:You may introduce many phantom voters as you preciously did, however in any given poll I would beat you conclusively. Go ahead and ask how many forumers support ISIS and think that they deserve credit for their courage. The very thought makes me puke, so I shall reiterate once more,
Fuck off .



I think it might be quite interesting to discover what members truly think.

Go ahead and advance your polls, if you have the "Courage" to do so of course.

Why don't you start it, after all your threads do not attract hardly any interest, this poll might just do so.
Go ahead Stupid, Im waiting



I have no need to ingratiate myself in the same fashion as do you.

I have noticed that your "Polls" invariably end without a satisfactory conclusion and I would not wish to offend you.

I am quite a "Civil Chap" you see, perhaps a leaf out of MY book would be advantageous to you..........."Insha Allah". :lol:


A leaf out of your book?

You are a pretty misguided and sad person to be supporting these cutthroats. You have every right to not like America for the number of reasons that you would readily point out, but to endorse this evil is pretty low. You can not justify this evil because of other injustices either real or perceived, such as the occupation of Cyprus, Palestine and then in the same breath believe that other injustices are ok such as what is occurring in Ukraine which bears similarities in my opinion to Cyprus or other injustices against defenceless civilians in Syria and Iraq just because they are SHIA, Christian, Kurdish, Azidi, Turkmen, or because they are simply a woman from such groups being sold into bondage after they kidnap their children to be used as slaves.

This is the evil being faced. It's a humanitarian tragedy unfolding as we write these posts. Someone is being shot, or beheaded or burned, or raped. Children will not see their parents again.

I presume from your posting habits, that you only uphold these views because you are blinded by your hate of America. You have every right to not like America, and a balanced person certainly would not hate America, but I can understand if you do but it is better to say that you do not agree with their policies or with many of their actions and take each scenario on a case by case basis and I would find it more difficult to argue with you when you also give credit where it is also due and America for all its faults has done plenty to deserve a great deal of credit too.

To have credibility, in your effort to politically discredit America on this forum, you also need to carefully weigh your options and that does not mean justifying an evil humanitarian tragedy against persons who can't defend themselves or because of their beliefs.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Garavnoss » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:41 am

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:You may introduce many phantom voters as you preciously did, however in any given poll I would beat you conclusively. Go ahead and ask how many forumers support ISIS and think that they deserve credit for their courage. The very thought makes me puke, so I shall reiterate once more,
Fuck off .



I think it might be quite interesting to discover what members truly think.

Go ahead and advance your polls, if you have the "Courage" to do so of course.

Why don't you start it, after all your threads do not attract hardly any interest, this poll might just do so.
Go ahead Stupid, Im waiting



I have no need to ingratiate myself in the same fashion as do you.

I have noticed that your "Polls" invariably end without a satisfactory conclusion and I would not wish to offend you.

I am quite a "Civil Chap" you see, perhaps a leaf out of MY book would be advantageous to you..........."Insha Allah". :lol:


A leaf out of your book?

You are a pretty misguided and sad person to be supporting these cutthroats. You have every right to not like America for the number of reasons that you would readily point out, but to endorse this evil is pretty low. You can not justify this evil because of other injustices either real or perceived, such as the occupation of Cyprus, Palestine and then in the same breath believe that other injustices are ok such as what is occurring in Ukraine which bears similarities in my opinion to Cyprus or other injustices against defenceless civilians in Syria and Iraq just because they are SHIA, Christian, Kurdish, Azidi, Turkmen, or because they are simply a woman from such groups being sold into bondage after they kidnap their children to be used as slaves.

This is the evil being faced. It's a humanitarian tragedy unfolding as we write these posts. Someone is being shot, or beheaded or burned, or raped. Children will not see their parents again.

I presume from your posting habits, that you only uphold these views because you are blinded by your hate of America. You have every right to not like America, and a balanced person certainly would not hate America, but I can understand if you do but it is better to say that you do not agree with their policies or with many of their actions and take each scenario on a case by case basis and I would find it more difficult to argue with you when you also give credit where it is also due and America for all its faults has done plenty to deserve a great deal of credit too.

To have credibility, in your effort to politically discredit America on this forum, you also need to carefully weigh your options and that does not mean justifying an evil humanitarian tragedy against persons who can't defend themselves or because of their beliefs.




In my defence, I would like to point out that NOWHERE have I indicated that I endorse the actions of IS.

I merely uphold my right to recognize "Courage" where I see it. I believe that ANY smaller force which is prepared to defy a larger one MUST have "Courage" in order to operate their defiance.

I would also like to point out that I do not HATE either America or Israel (or any other nation), nor have I ever written such.

If YOU (in concert with your insulting friend) wish to suppose otherwise, that is also your common right but, it does not necessarily mean that you are correct in your assumptions/opinions/conclusions etc, rather it would be an indication of your inadequacy to accept that others may see things a little differently to yourselves.

I imagined you to be a person with something of a military background, I was always taught to regard ANY enemy with a degree of respect for a simple reason..... they may win !, in which case, the shame of having to concede to a "Coward" (or other disparaged opponent) would be a greater shame than defeat by an honourable one.. Therefore, always respect your enemy.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Garavnoss wrote:In my defence, I would like to point out that NOWHERE have I indicated that I endorse the actions of IS.


OK great! We are off to a good start here.

So you do not endorse the actions of IS and perhaps you find IS abhorrent. Most normal people would. Therefore, you should support the coalition (60 countries) who are trying to end them. The only critical thing in my mind, is the fact that there are no boots on the ground to end it quickly.

Garavnoss wrote:I merely uphold my right to recognize "Courage" where I see it. I believe that ANY smaller force which is prepared to defy a larger one MUST have "Courage" in order to operate their defiance.


There is no courage here. They are hiding behind their human shields (civilians) because they know that air strikes do not occur so freely in those areas. Yes, no effort is spared to avoid human casualties.

Garavnoss wrote:I would also like to point out that I do not HATE either America or Israel (or any other nation), nor have I ever written such.


Good! You might need to balance your arguments by offering some credit where it is due in America's case. Only then will you be more effective whenever you're being critical about some US Policies. There is plenty to be critical about, it just depends on how you go about it.

Garavnoss wrote:If YOU (in concert with your insulting friend) wish to suppose otherwise, that is also your common right but, it does not necessarily mean that you are correct in your assumptions/opinions/conclusions etc, rather it would be an indication of your inadequacy to accept that others may see things a little differently to yourselves.


I do not agree with his posts, especially when they become insulting. I also don't have many allies on this forum. I do not participate here in concert with others. I have my own unique style and my own opinions and I try to be very fair.

You however seem to be provoking him into some outburst and that makes you just as guilty as he is when he levels his insults. Of course, your position in some of your posts could encourage similar responses from many, so I question your motives.

Garavnoss wrote:I imagined you to be a person with something of a military background, I was always taught to regard ANY enemy with a degree of respect for a simple reason..... they may win !, in which case, the shame of having to concede to a "Coward" (or other disparaged opponent) would be a greater shame than defeat by an honourable one.. Therefore, always respect your enemy.


Yes but you are confusing the issue.

You respect any enemy because they can kill you and they can do that very easily. And I have never in my live been brave enough to want to invite death upon myself or my mates so you do everything in your power to avoid any mishaps.

So yes, you do what you do always being very cautious of any enemy, and acting in a fashion which does not under estimate their ability. It just takes one bullet to die.

But I do not respect their courage, actions or ideology. Two separate things here. I respect however the courage of Australian Soldiers for example, even though they are less prepared to offer their life. Of course there are instances where Australian Soldiers were resigned to their impending death and took it upon themselves to go out with a bang and to go down fighting to the last man. I offered the Battle of Long Tan as such an example - 108 diggers Vs 6000 VC. Now that is what I call courage. Kobani is another example of something very similar.

Courage is not fighting against defenceless civilians, or punching and beating up a woman. That is cowardly.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Garavnoss » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:50 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:In my defence, I would like to point out that NOWHERE have I indicated that I endorse the actions of IS.


OK great! We are off to a good start here.

So you do not endorse the actions of IS and perhaps you find IS abhorrent. Most normal people would. Therefore, you should support the coalition (60 countries) who are trying to end them. The only critical thing in my mind, is the fact that there are no boots on the ground to end it quickly.

Garavnoss wrote:I merely uphold my right to recognize "Courage" where I see it. I believe that ANY smaller force which is prepared to defy a larger one MUST have "Courage" in order to operate their defiance.


There is no courage here. They are hiding behind their human shields (civilians) because they know that air strikes do not occur so freely in those areas. Yes, no effort is spared to avoid human casualties.

Garavnoss wrote:I would also like to point out that I do not HATE either America or Israel (or any other nation), nor have I ever written such.


Good! You might need to balance your arguments by offering some credit where it is due in America's case. Only then will you be more effective whenever you're being critical about some US Policies. There is plenty to be critical about, it just depends on how you go about it.

Garavnoss wrote:If YOU (in concert with your insulting friend) wish to suppose otherwise, that is also your common right but, it does not necessarily mean that you are correct in your assumptions/opinions/conclusions etc, rather it would be an indication of your inadequacy to accept that others may see things a little differently to yourselves.


I do not agree with his posts, especially when they become insulting. I also don't have many allies on this forum. I do not participate here in concert with others. I have my own unique style and my own opinions and I try to be very fair.

You however seem to be provoking him into some outburst and that makes you just as guilty as he is when he levels his insults. Of course, your position in some of your posts could encourage similar responses from many, so I question your motives.

Garavnoss wrote:I imagined you to be a person with something of a military background, I was always taught to regard ANY enemy with a degree of respect for a simple reason..... they may win !, in which case, the shame of having to concede to a "Coward" (or other disparaged opponent) would be a greater shame than defeat by an honourable one.. Therefore, always respect your enemy.


Yes but you are confusing the issue.

You respect any enemy because they can kill you and they can do that very easily. And I have never in my live been brave enough to want to invite death upon myself or my mates so you do everything in your power to avoid any mishaps.

So yes, you do what you do always being very cautious of any enemy, and acting in a fashion which does not under estimate their ability. It just takes one bullet to die.

But I do not respect their courage, actions or ideology. Two separate things here. I respect however the courage of Australian Soldiers for example, even though they are less prepared to offer their life. Of course there are instances where Australian Soldiers were resigned to their impending death and took it upon themselves to go out with a bang and to go down fighting to the last man. I offered the Battle of Long Tan as such an example - 108 diggers Vs 6000 VC. Now that is what I call courage. Kobani is another example of something very similar.

Courage is not fighting against defenceless civilians, or punching and beating up a woman. That is cowardly.




I would have to congratulate you on the manner in which you have countered my comments, however, you still appear to rely on the events surrounding the actions of IS (and other conflicts) in order to do so.

The REAL issue is "Courage" (regardless of where it may manifest itself) and MY view is that a lesser force prepared to engage a larger one must be equipped with a certain "Courage" to do so.

By no means does that suggest that I am in favour of atrocious behaviour, nor does it imply that I hate anyone. quite simple really.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:55 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:In my defence, I would like to point out that NOWHERE have I indicated that I endorse the actions of IS.


OK great! We are off to a good start here.

So you do not endorse the actions of IS and perhaps you find IS abhorrent. Most normal people would. Therefore, you should support the coalition (60 countries) who are trying to end them. The only critical thing in my mind, is the fact that there are no boots on the ground to end it quickly.

Garavnoss wrote:I merely uphold my right to recognize "Courage" where I see it. I believe that ANY smaller force which is prepared to defy a larger one MUST have "Courage" in order to operate their defiance.


There is no courage here. They are hiding behind their human shields (civilians) because they know that air strikes do not occur so freely in those areas. Yes, no effort is spared to avoid human casualties.

Garavnoss wrote:I would also like to point out that I do not HATE either America or Israel (or any other nation), nor have I ever written such.


Good! You might need to balance your arguments by offering some credit where it is due in America's case. Only then will you be more effective whenever you're being critical about some US Policies. There is plenty to be critical about, it just depends on how you go about it.

Garavnoss wrote:If YOU (in concert with your insulting friend) wish to suppose otherwise, that is also your common right but, it does not necessarily mean that you are correct in your assumptions/opinions/conclusions etc, rather it would be an indication of your inadequacy to accept that others may see things a little differently to yourselves.


I do not agree with his posts, especially when they become insulting. I also don't have many allies on this forum. I do not participate here in concert with others. I have my own unique style and my own opinions and I try to be very fair.

You however seem to be provoking him into some outburst and that makes you just as guilty as he is when he levels his insults. Of course, your position in some of your posts could encourage similar responses from many, so I question your motives.

Garavnoss wrote:I imagined you to be a person with something of a military background, I was always taught to regard ANY enemy with a degree of respect for a simple reason..... they may win !, in which case, the shame of having to concede to a "Coward" (or other disparaged opponent) would be a greater shame than defeat by an honourable one.. Therefore, always respect your enemy.


Yes but you are confusing the issue.

You respect any enemy because they can kill you and they can do that very easily. And I have never in my live been brave enough to want to invite death upon myself or my mates so you do everything in your power to avoid any mishaps.

So yes, you do what you do always being very cautious of any enemy, and acting in a fashion which does not under estimate their ability. It just takes one bullet to die.

But I do not respect their courage, actions or ideology. Two separate things here. I respect however the courage of Australian Soldiers for example, even though they are less prepared to offer their life. Of course there are instances where Australian Soldiers were resigned to their impending death and took it upon themselves to go out with a bang and to go down fighting to the last man. I offered the Battle of Long Tan as such an example - 108 diggers Vs 6000 VC. Now that is what I call courage. Kobani is another example of something very similar.

Courage is not fighting against defenceless civilians, or punching and beating up a woman. That is cowardly.




I would have to congratulate you on the manner in which you have countered my comments, however, you still appear to rely on the events surrounding the actions of IS (and other conflicts) in order to do so.

The REAL issue is "Courage" (regardless of where it may manifest itself) and MY view is that a lesser force prepared to engage a larger one must be equipped with a certain "Courage" to do so.

By no means does that suggest that I am in favour of atrocious behaviour, nor does it imply that I hate anyone. quite simple really.


That is your view and I can't agree.

It's the same as saying that a home intruder has courage when he forces his entry into someone's home, regardless of the fact that the home owner may be armed with a shot gun. In your mind, you are saying that the intruder is courageous, but as far as I am concerned, I believe the home owner is courageous for protecting his home, wife and family. One is breaking the law and the other is trying to protect himself and others.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:19 am

kurupetos wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:Shame on them.


Do you have a stainless bbq Toffoui, or do you dig a hole in the ground for your bbq'ing...???

I have a traditional Cypriot BBQ, matey. :?

his hole in the garden serves two purposes. he killes two birds with one stone like. :wink: :wink:
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Order "Unlawful"

Postby kurupetos » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:46 pm

Lordo wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Shame on them.


Do you have a stainless bbq Toffoui, or do you dig a hole in the ground for your bbq'ing...???

I have a traditional Cypriot BBQ, matey. :?

his hole in the garden serves two purposes. he killes two birds with one stone like. :wink: :wink:

:shock: Really? :?
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