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[GreekIslandGirl]

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself but, I doubt if you even know the meaning of shame......you disgust me.

You seem to engage in a lot of exchanges with those you say "disgust" you. That's rather an unhealthy pursuit, don't you think?

And from my "considered" opinion, your insincere support of such forms of criminality is intended only to provoke Miltiades into over-zealous counter-support of what is otherwise of purely balanced interest by him.

[miltiades]

I'm more than cabable of contacting the process of a " civil" debate with anyone who does not put foreward the notion that burning people alive, decapidating heads and sticking them on poles or using them as footballs , somehow constitutes bravery and courage.

Twisted, perverted, misfits would only be the ones that consider the barbaric acts of ISIS as courageous.

[Schnauzer]

Re: DOES ISIS DESERVE CREDIT FOR COURAGE !!!!!
Unread postby miltiades » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:22 am
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Western Women are prone to be attracted to men of "Wealth", whereas those with Eastern tendencies are more apt to favour men who demonstrate "Fervour" and probably are drawn to the Jihadists because they recognize that they are demonstrating "Courage" in their resistance to the changes the Western (and other Western influenced forces} are imposing upon their culture.

It's a bitter pill to swallow but it is a fact and ALL the propaganda to the contrary will NEVER change it, the Jihadists are not afraid of the mightily superior forces arrayed against them, they are more afraid of LIFE without their faith than DEATH with it.

THAT takes "Courage" and I defy anyone to contradict the fact, (Which DOES NOT imply that I am in favour of atrocities) it merely illustrates that I am able to see further than the end of Obama's nose.

So what your saying is that courage equals credit for the Jihadists.

Taking everything in to account. Are you in favor of the jihadists over the "west" because they are demonstrating courage?

Not at all, I merely indicate that a lesser force (the Jihadists) MUST be accredited a degree of "Courage" in order to face down a vastly superior force (those of the West and others).

Whatever the political stratagems of EITHER side of the conflict are, "Courage" is a necessary virtue for ALL combatants.

The Jihadists are as entitled to fight for that which THEY believe in as are their opponents, were it not so, the West would be at liberty to impose ANY influence throughout the world in the guise of "Might is Right" and "Billy be Damned" whatever any other (sect) or religiously-governed nation might think if it does not accept the domination of the greater force.

My views should NOT be taken as an endorsement of atrocities (which incidentally are prevalent on BOTH sides of this conflict) they are, as indicated on many occasions, my opinion that a certain amount of "Courage" is attributable to the Jihadists.... that's all.

You are fucking sick, you pervert, fuck off ¬

Once again you manage to display your "Debating skills" I suggest you READ what is written and try to understand the content.

I have said before that a civilized debate on offensive heinous acts is not appropriate in my case, it would perhaps have been apt if I was a psychiatrist which Im not.
Parading 21 innocent men and filming them having their throats cut while the sea turns red warrants no other debate than to call the perpetrators of such hideous barbaric act SAVAGES, You believe, passionately I may add, that they possess courage. You are either a jihadist your self or about to become one. Sir you have my utter contempt.

I would have to agree that you should READ and try to understand that which the 'Gentleman ' wrote before embarking upon your usual campaign of insult and abuse...., who knows ?, you may even learn something about 'Courage' (the meaning of it) since those fighters which have declared themselves 'ISIS', are NOW facing an enormously overwhelming assault (both militarily and technologically) upon them YET, they are STILL determined to fight on.

Don't know about you BUT, I personally would have to credit such resistance to such opposition with a great deal of 'Courage'.

I also think you should apologize for your unacceptably offensive response to a perfectly acceptable point of view.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Seriously?

To this day .... Garavnoss/Schnauzer .... you have not managed to distinguish between brainwashed and courageous?

Think lemmings ....

[miltiades]

Seriously?

To this day .... Garavnoss/Schnauzer .... you have not managed to distinguish between brainwashed and courageous?

Think lemmings ....

These fucking savages blow them selves up not driven by courage but a perverted ideology, religious at that, that they will become martyrs and head towards paradise and numerous virgins. Fucking dead and brain washed barbarians!

[Schnauzer]

Here is a little snippet for you all to mull over whilst you uphold the onslaught of aggression yet cannot fathom the 'Courage' of those that oppose it.

When the snows cover the drives of your comfortable homes, the usual activity of those that dwell there is to take up (or purchase) a large shovel-like device and clear a path through it.

A similar 'Device' (except that the leading edge is strengthened with stainless steel) is used to scrape up the remains of victims of 'Bombing raids' and any remaining blood and gore, pressure washed lest the 'Feral Cats' and other 'Carrion Creatures' descend upon that which is left.

It is difficult to distinguish twixt one atrocity and another in such circumstances BUT, in ALL cases, there is never a mention of nor sight of (neither in the newspapers nor television ) such close up scrutiny, since such visual reminders of what 'Horror' looks like, MIGHT stir up public opinion and lead to the obvious conclusion that such 'Horrors' should not be part of the society's in which we live.

As horrific are the actions of 'ISIS' (or ANY retaliatory force) which rises up against that which THEY see as aggression, they are still greatly inferior to those which are imposed upon THEM.

I do not condone the actions of 'ISIS' BUT. I cannot see that they have any alternative but to resist (as strenuously and as inhumanly) and adopt the same (if not greater) actions which result in that which WE may perceive as atrocities as are imposed upon them.

The 'Western Powers' should be ashamed to call themselves 'Civilized' whilst boldly pursuing the campaigns of violence which proves they are not AND, how 'Horrendous' that those who are at the brunt of their campaigns should have the 'Courage' to fight back.

If it didn't make you laugh, it would make you cry............ Good Luck to anyone who stands up to 'Bullies' .

[GreekIslandGirl]

Here is a little snippet for you all to mull over whilst you uphold the onslaught of aggression yet cannot fathom the 'Courage' of those that oppose it.

Well.... now we get to the basis of your mindless attacks. You have set up a straw man and are verbally bashing Miltiades and others with this warped, false thinking!

Whilst no one here is upholding the 'onslaught of aggression' (your straw man accusation) you, however, are upholding the 'Courage' of those who do show aggression in the form of their opposition (beheadings etc).

So, please stop accusing others of upholding 'the onslaught of aggression' (your straw man) because no one here, as far as I can see, is 'upholding the onslaught of aggression' (except a few deranged cowboys that want to see Putin punished).

[Paphitis]

Here is a little snippet for you all to mull over whilst you uphold the onslaught of aggression yet cannot fathom the 'Courage' of those that oppose it.

Well.... now we get to the basis of your mindless attacks. You have set up a straw man and are verbally bashing Miltiades and others with this warped, false thinking!

Whilst no one here is upholding the 'onslaught of aggression' (your straw man accusation) you, however, are upholding the 'Courage' of those who do show aggression in the form of their opposition (beheadings etc).

So, please stop accusing others of upholding 'the onslaught of aggression' (your straw man) because no one here, as far as I can see, is 'upholding the onslaught of aggression' (except a few deranged cowboys that want to see Putin punished).

Do you find War Crimes acceptable?

Is it not right that those who committ War Crimes be punished or shall we set new lows.

You can't have it both ways.

Pootin has punished himself. But he might be ok. The war criminal that won't be ok for as long as he is alive, is Assad. He has no more legitimacy than the "trnc"

[Paphitis]

Re: DOES ISIS DESERVE CREDIT FOR COURAGE !!!!!
Unread postby miltiades » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:22 am
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Western Women are prone to be attracted to men of "Wealth", whereas those with Eastern tendencies are more apt to favour men who demonstrate "Fervour" and probably are drawn to the Jihadists because they recognize that they are demonstrating "Courage" in their resistance to the changes the Western (and other Western influenced forces} are imposing upon their culture.

It's a bitter pill to swallow but it is a fact and ALL the propaganda to the contrary will NEVER change it, the Jihadists are not afraid of the mightily superior forces arrayed against them, they are more afraid of LIFE without their faith than DEATH with it.

THAT takes "Courage" and I defy anyone to contradict the fact, (Which DOES NOT imply that I am in favour of atrocities) it merely illustrates that I am able to see further than the end of Obama's nose.

So what your saying is that courage equals credit for the Jihadists.

Taking everything in to account. Are you in favor of the jihadists over the "west" because they are demonstrating courage?

Not at all, I merely indicate that a lesser force (the Jihadists) MUST be accredited a degree of "Courage" in order to face down a vastly superior force (those of the West and others).

Whatever the political stratagems of EITHER side of the conflict are, "Courage" is a necessary virtue for ALL combatants.

The Jihadists are as entitled to fight for that which THEY believe in as are their opponents, were it not so, the West would be at liberty to impose ANY influence throughout the world in the guise of "Might is Right" and "Billy be Damned" whatever any other (sect) or religiously-governed nation might think if it does not accept the domination of the greater force.

My views should NOT be taken as an endorsement of atrocities (which incidentally are prevalent on BOTH sides of this conflict) they are, as indicated on many occasions, my opinion that a certain amount of "Courage" is attributable to the Jihadists.... that's all.

You are fucking sick, you pervert, fuck off ¬

Once again you manage to display your "Debating skills" I suggest you READ what is written and try to understand the content.

I have said before that a civilized debate on offensive heinous acts is not appropriate in my case, it would perhaps have been apt if I was a psychiatrist which Im not.
Parading 21 innocent men and filming them having their throats cut while the sea turns red warrants no other debate than to call the perpetrators of such hideous barbaric act SAVAGES, You believe, passionately I may add, that they possess courage. You are either a jihadist your self or about to become one. Sir you have my utter contempt.

I would have to agree that you should READ and try to understand that which the 'Gentleman ' wrote before embarking upon your usual campaign of insult and abuse...., who knows ?, you may even learn something about 'Courage' (the meaning of it) since those fighters which have declared themselves 'ISIS', are NOW facing an enormously overwhelming assault (both militarily and technologically) upon them YET, they are STILL determined to fight on.

Don't know about you BUT, I personally would have to credit such resistance to such opposition with a great deal of 'Courage'.

I also think you should apologize for your unacceptably offensive response to a perfectly acceptable point of view.

ISIL is a terrorist organization. Their acts of violence, criminality and terror are cowardly especially when ethnically cleansing, killing other peoples such as Assyrians, Yazidi and Turkmen.

However, when facing the superior Coalition Force with all the technology that will be bought to bear, they are indeed very resolute, and probably quite courageous. They would have to be. They don't seem to be surrendering. They will probably go down fighting.

There are other groups which are courageous. Who can in their right mind deny that the rebels in Aleppo are not brave? They have been fighting the regime for a long time, and are even taking the fight right up to them in similar fashion as the YPG in Kobani. That is what I would call courageous.

Courageous, and victors against Assad! Assad can kill them all, but he will forever be the Pariah War Criminal, hence he has lost EVERYTHING!

[Paphitis]

Here is a little snippet for you all to mull over whilst you uphold the onslaught of aggression yet cannot fathom the 'Courage' of those that oppose it.

When the snows cover the drives of your comfortable homes, the usual activity of those that dwell there is to take up (or purchase) a large shovel-like device and clear a path through it.

A similar 'Device' (except that the leading edge is strengthened with stainless steel) is used to scrape up the remains of victims of 'Bombing raids' and any remaining blood and gore, pressure washed lest the 'Feral Cats' and other 'Carrion Creatures' descend upon that which is left.

It is difficult to distinguish twixt one atrocity and another in such circumstances BUT, in ALL cases, there is never a mention of nor sight of (neither in the newspapers nor television ) such close up scrutiny, since such visual reminders of what 'Horror' looks like, MIGHT stir up public opinion and lead to the obvious conclusion that such 'Horrors' should not be part of the society's in which we live.

As horrific are the actions of 'ISIS' (or ANY retaliatory force) which rises up against that which THEY see as aggression, they are still greatly inferior to those which are imposed upon THEM.

I do not condone the actions of 'ISIS' BUT. I cannot see that they have any alternative but to resist (as strenuously and as inhumanly) and adopt the same (if not greater) actions which result in that which WE may perceive as atrocities as are imposed upon them.

The 'Western Powers' should be ashamed to call themselves 'Civilized' whilst boldly pursuing the campaigns of violence which proves they are not AND, how 'Horrendous' that those who are at the brunt of their campaigns should have the 'Courage' to fight back.

If it didn't make you laugh, it would make you cry............ Good Luck to anyone who stands up to 'Bullies' .

I don't see how the Western Powers should be ashamed of themselves.

They played no part in the formation of ISIL.they exploited a vacuum which the West left behind in Iraq, butI feel very comfortable now that the West is on top of it. DAESH are spreading a false ideology. They wish to form an Islamic Caliphate. Fine if you say that is what they believe in. But the West won't allow it. DAESH are now on borrowed time. Their violence in Iraq is about to come to a close.

If you want an example of courage, then look at our very own Peshmerga.

Look at the rebels of Aleppo. The women of Kobani. The Yazidi, Assyrians, and Turkmen. Look at the FSA!

But if it makes you feel better, the Coalition is cautious and wary. Everything they have done has been carefully considered over and over. So we respect their ability to fight, courageously against all odds. But the linac is near.

They could surrender and save themselves. Their decision. Byut we make no false claims of Amnesty like some liars o. That will not be the case. They won't be murdured either.