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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 22, 2015 11:49 am

Lordo wrote:here is the defeated isil being defeated more. although how many times you can defeat one person must be asked.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/isis-palmyra-ramadi-advances-say-more-about-state-weakness-than-jihadi-strength


What are you saying? Is ISIL winning the war now?

For ISIL to win this war, they will need to withstand atleast a decade of bombardment. Not that they will last that long because the ISF are being armed to the teeth and are currently undergoing training.

We are building a army from the ground up and once we unleash them then its bye bye to ISIL.

The ISF will be better trained than Abdul once we are through with them.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 22, 2015 12:09 pm

I hope you are right, but I am starting to feel ever greater despair. Look at Ramadi, where it seems the Iraqi army retreated without putting up any fight and abandoning a lot of weaponry given to them by the Americans. Can't those with power see that the more DAESH grows and gains in strength, the harder and more expensive it is going to be to destroy this genocidal movement which poses an existential threat to most of us?
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Lordo » Fri May 22, 2015 12:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:here is the defeated isil being defeated more. although how many times you can defeat one person must be asked.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/isis-palmyra-ramadi-advances-say-more-about-state-weakness-than-jihadi-strength


What are you saying? Is ISIL winning the war now?

For ISIL to win this war, they will need to withstand atleast a decade of bombardment. Not that they will last that long because the ISF are being armed to the teeth and are currently undergoing training.

We are building a army from the ground up and once we unleash them then its bye bye to ISIL.

The ISF will be better trained than Abdul once we are through with them.

you are so stupid. everything is centred around you. yeah right.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 22, 2015 2:50 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I hope you are right, but I am starting to feel ever greater despair. Look at Ramadi, where it seems the Iraqi army retreated without putting up any fight and abandoning a lot of weaponry given to them by the Americans. Can't those with power see that the more DAESH grows and gains in strength, the harder and more expensive it is going to be to destroy this genocidal movement which poses an existential threat to most of us?


Don't feel despair.

There are 1000 Australian troops only an hours drive from Palmyra. 300 of those are elite SAS. Unfortunately, they are not allowed to engage.

However, they are training Iraqi Troops. It takes time.

We have not seen the main event just yet.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 22, 2015 2:56 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I hope you are right, but I am starting to feel ever greater despair. Look at Ramadi, where it seems the Iraqi army retreated without putting up any fight and abandoning a lot of weaponry given to them by the Americans. Can't those with power see that the more DAESH grows and gains in strength, the harder and more expensive it is going to be to destroy this genocidal movement which poses an existential threat to most of us?


Put it this way. They took Palmyra because we let them. The Iraqi Government will not allow US or Australian Troops to engage the enemy. We have to respect their sovereign right.

They would not be able to take Palmyra if ISIL faced Australian Troops.

However, there is a lot of great work being done training the ISF. That is the core strategy now. In time, they will be in a position to defeat them with Australian and US technical assistance and support. It's just a matter of time now.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 22, 2015 3:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I hope you are right, but I am starting to feel ever greater despair. Look at Ramadi, where it seems the Iraqi army retreated without putting up any fight and abandoning a lot of weaponry given to them by the Americans. Can't those with power see that the more DAESH grows and gains in strength, the harder and more expensive it is going to be to destroy this genocidal movement which poses an existential threat to most of us?


Put it this way. They took Palmyra because we let them. The Iraqi Government will not allow US or Australian Troops to engage the enemy. We have to respect their sovereign right.

They would not be able to take Palmyra if ISIL faced Australian Troops.

However, there is a lot of great work being done training the ISF. That is the core strategy now. In time, they will be in a position to defeat them with Australian and US technical assistance and support. It's just a matter of time now.


Ahem ... Palmyra is in Syria. Ramadi is in Iraq, though.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 22, 2015 4:04 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I hope you are right, but I am starting to feel ever greater despair. Look at Ramadi, where it seems the Iraqi army retreated without putting up any fight and abandoning a lot of weaponry given to them by the Americans. Can't those with power see that the more DAESH grows and gains in strength, the harder and more expensive it is going to be to destroy this genocidal movement which poses an existential threat to most of us?


Put it this way. They took Palmyra because we let them. The Iraqi Government will not allow US or Australian Troops to engage the enemy. We have to respect their sovereign right.

They would not be able to take Palmyra if ISIL faced Australian Troops.

However, there is a lot of great work being done training the ISF. That is the core strategy now. In time, they will be in a position to defeat them with Australian and US technical assistance and support. It's just a matter of time now.


Ahem ... Palmyra is in Syria. Ramadi is in Iraq, though.


Yeh sorry. DAESH forces are within 1 hour of Australian troops near Ramadi at a place called Camp Taji.

There are no coalition troops in Syria that I know of. Certainly no Australian troops anyway.

Syria is another kettle of fish altogether.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Lordo » Tue May 26, 2015 11:47 am

tell dingo boy where syria and iraq are. he thinks they are in the outback. dingo forces go home.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby kurupetos » Tue May 26, 2015 1:05 pm

They will find Turkey too.
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Re: The ISF is ready for its first practice run

Postby Lordo » Tue May 26, 2015 10:36 pm

kurupetos wrote:They will find Turkey too.

terggy has kept out of this one for a change. there is no oil in syria. it is the north iraq they like the look of. they will wait till the pesshmerga are defeated and then they will go in to rescue them.
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