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[miltiades]

Contrary to initial reports no mayday calls were made prior to the crash.

I don't know much about different types of aircraft but I do know that the Airbus A320 is one of the safest aircrafts , Easyjet as well as the late CY used the same aircraft. No distress signals were sent prior to the crush, what caused this tragedy.

We know that on board were 45 Spaniards and 67 Germans. Who were the other passengers ? 150 dead, 112 Spaniards and Germans, who were the rest ?

Far too early to draw any reasonable conclusions as to the cause, could it have been .....
We shall just have to wait and see. A human tragedy involving children too.

[Kikapu]

Contrary to initial reports no mayday calls were made prior to the crash.

I don't know much about different types of aircraft but I do know that the Airbus A320 is one of the safest aircrafts , Easyjet as well as the late CY used the same aircraft. No distress signals were sent prior to the crush, what caused this tragedy.

We know that on board were 45 Spaniards and 67 Germans. Who were the other passengers ? 150 dead, 112 Spaniards and Germans, who were the rest ?

Far too early to draw any reasonable conclusions as to the cause, could it have been .....
We shall just have to wait and see. A human tragedy involving children too.

I believe there were Turks also on the doomed flight.

I saw the crash sight on the news and it looked like the whole aircraft had gone through the shredder many times over. It looked like confetti spread all over the mountain range. Never seen anything like that before for a plane crash site.

[miltiades]

Similar pehaps to the Helios disaster ? One expert thinks perhaps.
“The aircraft appears to have gone into a decent lasting eight minutes, at a more or less constant velocity, until hitting terrain.

“Without intending to speculate, if it is true that the crew made no attempts to make radio contact, they may have been suddenly incapacitated.

“At this stage oxygen starvation cannot be ruled out, as in the Helios Airways accident near Athens in 2005.”

“Without oxygen, you lose consciousness very quickly – hence the on board safety announcement that tells you to put the mask on your own face first and only then on babies and children.”

[Kikapu]

Similar pehaps to the Helios disaster ? One expert thinks perhaps.
“The aircraft appears to have gone into a decent lasting eight minutes, at a more or less constant velocity, until hitting terrain.

“Without intending to speculate, if it is true that the crew made no attempts to make radio contact, they may have been suddenly incapacitated.

“At this stage oxygen starvation cannot be ruled out, as in the Helios Airways accident near Athens in 2005.”

“Without oxygen, you lose consciousness very quickly – hence the on board safety announcement that tells you to put the mask on your own face first and only then on babies and children.”

In Helios case, the plane run out of fuel before crashing after reaching it's final "way-point" near Athens and started circling long after the crew and passengers were incapacitated due to slow leak loss of cabin pressure. In the Germanwings incident, the aircraft came down on enroute to its destination only about an hour after take-off. If the crew were incapacitated due to slow leak loss of cabin pressure also, then the aircraft should have crashed once reaching it's final "way-point" few hours later, also after running out of fuel. That has not been the case. In both cases, the planes would have been on autopilot soon after take off until reaching their destinations..

[GreekIslandGirl]

This is very sad. Very sad indeed.

Thinking of all those poor families that have lost loved ones.

[miltiades]

Such a tragedy, so many young people and a baby too. Cant imagine the grief their families are going through right now and for the rest of their lives.
RIP.

I'm flying next Wednesday and must admit I'm already feeling nervous.

[miltiades]

The Latest: Report says 1 pilot locked out before crash"A newspaper is reporting that the voice recorder indicates that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit before a Germanwings jetliner plummeted into a remote Alpine mountainside.

The New York Times is citing an investigator it doesn't identify as saying that the audio shows that after an ordinary start to the flight, one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not get back in."
http://news.yahoo.com/latest-helicopter ... 05237.html

As yet no one knows the cause of this tragic disaster. Speculation will soon become rife more so following the revelation that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit. Presumably the cockpit door can only be opened from inside the cockpit, was the pilot in control incapacitated, did he suffer from a sudden heart attack, wasn't there anyone else in the cockpit ?

[B25]

New revelations
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... tes-4u9525

wow, could this be true???
So sad.

[miltiades]

New revelations
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... tes-4u9525

wow, could this be true???
So sad.

What a horrid thing to do. Deranged no doubt.

[Paphitis]

New revelations
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... tes-4u9525

wow, could this be true???
So sad.

What a horrid thing to do. Deranged no doubt.

Yes it is unfortunately possible and in this case very likely. I wouldn't say that the pilot was deranged. Obviously, other factors contributed to the psychological state and wellbeing of the FO.

Pilots are just as likely as anyone else to suffer from psychological and mental health issues. The profession places many challenges on your home life, and relationships. You can add many other factors (fatigue, financial) and it's all cumulative.

I was leaning towards crime, terrorism and possibly pilot intervention, especially when reports circulated about the Captain not being allowed access to the Flight Deck.

Depressurization did not seem plausible. There is absolutely no reason for depressurization incapacitating the Flight Crew.

There have been 3 confirmed suicide flights and 1 unconfirmed suicide flight in recent years - Silk Air, FedEx, GermanWings, and MH370 (unconfirmed).

I hope people can keep things in perspective. Pilots are monitored closely through medical checks and Human Factors, and Cabin Resource Management Training which is done yearly. Of course this depends on the jurisdiction. In this case, the German JAA jurisdiction is one of the most stringent in the world. People need to be calm and not over-react and help instigate more procedures which might introduce a new set of risks or problems.

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