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[GreekIslandGirl]

If all of Greece's and Cyprus' antiquities, artifacts and arts were returned from being held in museums abroad ... all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world. Such as before!

Why, oh why is the world depriving the Greeks of their creations?

[Oceanside50]

That almost sounds condescending to Greece and Cyprus. Why would they need their artifacts to save their economy and prove their worth? The artifacts may even be an asset to the greeks, since they are spread all over the world, people who can't afford to go to Greece or Cyprus can see the past greatness of greeks

[Get Real!]

all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world.

Hellenism is death to Cyprus and capitulation to dichotomy, so may your hellenism turn to ash and never return!

[GreekIslandGirl]

That almost sounds condescending to Greece and Cyprus. Why would they need their artifacts to save their economy and prove their worth? The artifacts may even be an asset to the greeks, since they are spread all over the world, people who can't afford to go to Greece or Cyprus can see the past greatness of greeks

Spread all over the world is better? Why is that not condescending to those you say can't afford to go to Greece or Cyprus?

It's NOT condescending to return what is taken from others. How could it possibly be? Condescending would be to give Cyprus/Greece aid or loans or handouts.

This would be returning what is rightfully theirs.

Too many fools....

[GreekIslandGirl]

all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world.

Hellenism is death to Cyprus and capitulation to dichotomy, so may your hellenism turn to ash and never return!

Your Turk-inspired views are of NO interest to me!

[Oceanside50]

That almost sounds condescending to Greece and Cyprus. Why would they need their artifacts to save their economy and prove their worth? The artifacts may even be an asset to the greeks, since they are spread all over the world, people who can't afford to go to Greece or Cyprus can see the past greatness of greeks

Spread all over the world is better? Why is that not condescending to those you say can't afford to go to Greece or Cyprus?

It's NOT condescending to return what is taken from others. How could it possibly be? Condescending would be to give Cyprus/Greece aid or loans or handouts.

This would be returning what is rightfully theirs.

Too many fools....

It's condescending to say that returning those artifacts would save both Greece and Cyprus. Both can rise up without them.. Those artifacts are spread throughout the world and everyone can see them, not only the ones that visit Greece and Cyprus. It's not a big deal. For instance if we exported you to, let's say , the far ends of China , you could serve to spread Hellenism to the Chinese rather then sitting on a bench in Cyprus or Greece eating a bougatsa...think of it in those terms

[Lordo]

If all of Greece's and Cyprus' antiquities, artifacts and arts were returned from being held in museums abroad ... all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world. Such as before!

Why, oh why is the world depriving the Greeks of their creations?

the only tinme greece was anywhere near financially sound was when you were invading other peoples land from anatolia to india and africa. thieves never prosper.

as to now, even if they sort out their tax collection they will still be in the red as the debt cannot be paid back.

you are doomed ..................dooooooooooomed.

but really such a cheap trick to bring cyprus into all this mess. just for that majority gcs will never forgive you.

[Pyrpolizer]

If all of Greece's and Cyprus' antiquities, artifacts and arts were returned from being held in museums abroad ... all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world. Such as before!

Why, oh why is the world depriving the Greeks of their creations?

It won't increase tourism GIG. The primary interest of tourists is not to visit museums...
The ancient Greeks had an advanced civilization alright, but i don't see any way we would ever be "such as before".
Imo all civilizations no one excluded, were externally guided. Today's civilization included.

You advocate evolution. Would you agree that the ancient Greeks should have had double the IQ of the "barbarians?
Well, what happened to it?

[Paphitis]

If all of Greece's and Cyprus' antiquities, artifacts and arts were returned from being held in museums abroad ... all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world. Such as before!

Why, oh why is the world depriving the Greeks of their creations?

It won't increase tourism GIG. The primary interest of tourists is not to visit museums...
The ancient Greeks had an advanced civilization alright, but i don't see any way we would ever be "such as before".
Imo all civilizations no one excluded, were externally guided. Today's civilization included.

You advocate evolution. Would you agree that the ancient Greeks should have had double the IQ of the "barbarians?
Well, what happened to it?

[GreekIslandGirl]

If all of Greece's and Cyprus' antiquities, artifacts and arts were returned from being held in museums abroad ... all the richness and tourism they will bring would make Hellenism the greatest, most glorious and wealthy state in the world. Such as before!

Why, oh why is the world depriving the Greeks of their creations?

It won't increase tourism GIG. The primary interest of tourists is not to visit museums...
The ancient Greeks had an advanced civilization alright, but i don't see any way we would ever be "such as before".
Imo all civilizations no one excluded, were externally guided. Today's civilization included.

You advocate evolution. Would you agree that the ancient Greeks should have had double the IQ of the "barbarians?
Well, what happened to it?

These monuments that belong back in Greece and Cyprus will bring with them more than simply tourists. Investment-generating conferences are held in many establishments that currently hold these relics. Huge study grants are allocated by the EU and various foundations to muse over Greek arts. We could have great Arts foundations that bring in students from all over the world.

But, the fact they do, indisputably, bring in tourists as well, is well established - it's one of the prime reasons the British Museum claims it should hang on to the Marbles, for instance. Tourists go to the UK to see the Greek historical artifacts and end up shopping in Harrods etc. Amazing investment centers around all the areas where the arts are exhibited.

And, why should the Greeks have had double the IQ of barbarians? Humans use very little of their brain as it is. IQ is nothing but a measure of what you do with what others have formulated/created. Having a high IQ and possessing the ability to invent/create/philosophize/fight or construct does not correlate. Maybe those who stole our inheritance have higher IQs. So what? They drool over what others have made. Rats outnumber men.

Besides, these creations inspire youth. Maybe our youth needs a reminder of what their forefathers have done, so that they can equalise or better them. How inspiring is it to our young folk to see everyone stealing what we have? It tells them we can never hang on to what is ours. Not a good message.

Leaving them in the hands of others also allows these others to revise and rewrite our history. It helps them keep hold.

Many reasons.