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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:59 pm

Turkish Cypriot journalist Sener Levent claims that from an interview with a former TMT commander it is possible that the famous bath-tub photo featuring a mother and her dead children in a bathtub supposedly killed by the Greek-Cypriots was set up by TMT.[10] Furthermore, he claims that TMT also altered the position of the bodies to make the photographs more ‘effective’ and that many of the photos of the event portrayed in museums were taken after the event.

Turkish Cypriot newspaper Avrupa reported that TMT was also responsible for the death of two Turkish Cypriot lawyers in 1962 believed to have been killed by the Greek Cypriots. It further stated that the real murderer, whose only the initials were disclosed (H.C), confessed the crime he had committed to a male nurse at the hospital before he died from excess use of alcohol and cirrhosis.[11]

The founder of TMT Rauf Denktas publicly confessed in an interview to the British Channel ITV that TMT was responsible for the bombing of the Press Office of the Turkish Consul in the Turkish neighborhood of Nicosia on 7 June 1958 in order to mobilize the Turkish Cypriots against the Greek Cypriots.[12]

An article published by the former Turkish Cypriot newspaper Zafer Kibrisli Turkeridir reveals the murders of various Turkish Cypriots who continued to support the Greek Cypriots by TMT in 1958.[13]


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Anyway, back to the Armenian Genocide. Do try to stay on topic Lordo.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby Alectryon » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:23 pm

Paphitis wrote:From 1958 till 1964, a total of 417 TCs were killed. Some were killed by the TMT itself. You know this very well.

Out of the 417, please tell us how many were bayoneted or burned alive.

If this is a genocide, then it is clear to me that the Greek Cypriots should stick to their day jobs.

There is a much larger murder tally in some cities within a single calender year.


Of those 417 killed, what was the ratio of women and children and elderly killed compared to the men killed ? That is a big indicator whether it was Genocide or not. I'm sure it wasn't. I wonder how this ratio in Cyprus compares to other well known conflicts in recent history.

The ratio of Armenian women and children and elderly killed compared to the Armenian men killed would be very high, comparable to the Jewish Holocaust.

Having said that, the Bosnian Genocide was the murder of 8,000 unarmed men and boys.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby miltiades » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:28 pm

This idiot by the name of Lordo can not even spell tergggy, its 3 gs you ignorant peasant . Guys there is one and only one way to interact with this jihadist idiot, that is the way I interact with him, treat him as a complete ignorant idiot for what he is. Its no surprise that he is the half brother of another idiot, also has a ...g in his name, a pair of jihadists, so surprised they are still in Cyprus!!
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby Alectryon » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:39 pm

miltiades wrote:Guys there is one and only one way to interact with this jihadist idiot, that is the way I interact with him, treat him as a complete ignorant idiot for what he is.


I disagree. He's putting forth claims and arguments that we can challenge. Let's challenge him. Or if we can't, concede that he has a point. That's the way a discussion forum should operate.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby Sotos » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:That's right, Lordo, don't worry. It applies only where human beings, with human feelings and morals, reside.

Thank you, Alectryon. God bless.

you are right as per usual. it applies in the land fit for heroes. where innocent civilians were burnt alive, pregnant women stabbed with bayonets, 16 day old children burnt alive and not one criminal brought to justice. the land of heroes.

you only resemble humans and you are without humanity. your lack of humanity resembles one of picasso's abstract human forms.


From 1958 till 1964, a total of 417 TCs were killed. Some were killed by the TMT itself. You know this very well.

Out of the 417, please tell us how many were bayoneted or burned alive.

If this is a genocide, then it is clear to me that the Greek Cypriots should stick to their day jobs.

There is a much larger murder tally in some cities within a single calender year.


Compare that with the 30.000+ people killed by the Turks in Cyprus. The invaders murdered 10s of thousands of people and then they want to be called "victims" because they had a few 100s of casualties. Lordo, are you so stupid not to know that we are the native people of this island and the Turks are the foreign invaders? Had you not invaded our island there wouldn't be any of those casualties.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:07 pm

Alectryon wrote:Of those 417 killed, what was the ratio of women and children and elderly killed compared to the men killed ? That is a big indicator whether it was Genocide or not. I'm sure it wasn't. I wonder how this ratio in Cyprus compares to other well known conflicts in recent history.

The ratio of Armenian women and children and elderly killed compared to the Armenian men killed would be very high, comparable to the Jewish Holocaust.


Ever changing Turkish tactics.

The disappearance of some 1200+ Greek Cypriots, mostly men, is still part of the ongoing racist extermination the Turks are carrying out over Cyprus. It's still a genocide whether its men or women killed for being the 'other'. But I see your point that men are often killed in combat; so when the statistics include an extraordinarily high number of women and children there is a different aspect.

But those 1200+ missing GC men, were unarmed, rounded-up from villages. Killed cold-bloodily (where????) pure murder, and not in combat. It's not even 'execution' as they were not treated as POWs.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:01 pm

...what does not kill you should make you stronger, so the saying goes. Those who do the killing should be advised, what comes round goes round.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:12 pm

Main points of Guardian article on Pope's speech on Armenian Genocide:

Pope Francis has described the mass killing of Armenians 100 years ago as a genocide, a politically explosive pronouncement that could damage diplomatic relations with Turkey.


Historians estimate that as many as 1.5 million Armenians were killed in a wave of violence that accompanied the fall of the Ottoman empire. Despite the massacre being formally recognised as a genocide by Italy and a number of other countries, Turkey refuses to accept it as such.

Reports in Turkey on Sunday said the Vatican’s ambassador to Ankara had been summoned to the foreign ministry to explain the pope’s remarks.


Theo van Lint, a Calouste Gulbenkian professor of Armenian studies at the University of Oxford, said allowing Armenian leaders to speak in St Peter’s Basilica was a strategic move.

“I think it’s very important to realise he gave space to the leaders, the heads of the Armenian church and Armenian Catholics, to fully give their view of events. It’s very clear that the pope accepts that it is a genocide,” van Lint told the Guardian.

He said the pontiff’s decision to refer to the mass killing of Armenians along with crimes perpetrated by Nazism and Stalinism gave the Vatican’s “highest sanction” to genocide recognition.


Francis’s use of the word “genocide” was unlikely to change relations between Armenia and Turkey, Dorfmann-Lazarev said, although it would raise diplomatic concerns at the Vatican.



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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:09 pm

Alectryon wrote:
miltiades wrote:Guys there is one and only one way to interact with this jihadist idiot, that is the way I interact with him, treat him as a complete ignorant idiot for what he is.


I disagree. He's putting forth claims and arguments that we can challenge. Let's challenge him. Or if we can't, concede that he has a point. That's the way a discussion forum should operate.

I have been on this forum for 9 years, well versed in the correct manner to either respond or debate.
I have across many complete and utter idiots, not least Lordo, the forums idiot. There is but one way to treat such complete idiots. You either pity them or you rebuff them in the appropriate manner. This idiot fully supports the jihadists, blames America for every despicable and savage act committed by his cousins and comes out with the crap he has posted on this thread.

Turkey killed thousands in Cyprus, the barbaric invasion caused mayhem on the whole island, thousands displaced, hundreds disappeared, 40% of Cyprus still occupied, and this marauding Plonker dares to post such utter crap.

Lordo, you are a fucking idiot, the name FORUM IDIOT is so apt, now piss of to Syria or Iraq, slit a few ...American throats you stupid Plonker.
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Re: Cyprus Criminalizes Denial of 1915 Armenian Genocide

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:25 pm

when the world recognises and treats the circassian genocide the way they do the armenians, i shall begin to feel compassion, but while the rest of the world only recognises the cristian victims and ignore the muslim victims, you can all go get fucked. america has killed millions in the middle east and you bastards support her. the russiand killed hundred thosuand of terggs ut nobody seems to mind that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Circassians
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