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interesting thoughts by eide

Postby Lordo » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:17 pm

now here is a man who understands the cyprus problem.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/04/08/eide-economic-zone-is-not-sovereign-territory/
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:43 am

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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.

...i would like to remind the readership that there exists no Greek Constituency. A Republic of Cyprus exists. If at another level of government, there existed Cypriot Constituencies, the Problem as it exists is solvable. In affect the debate is flawed because Greeks as Greeks do not have a voice per se, as the overwhelming majority are Greek. But, if Cypriot Constituencies were to meet, (as equals, as Persons,) they could surely find unanimity in defining the equal needs they have in sustaining these distinct identities. This consideration, to the President of the Republic sworn to defend all Cypriots without distinction or discrimination, would be of value toward the reform that the Republic must perform upon itself.

...hijacking and occupation are not an either or scenario, both have been used against the notion that a Cyprus, and Cypriots exist; if anything the "Greeks" and "Turks" which occupy and hijack the agenda are one side of the coin, let's not forget the other side.

It would be nice if the President of Cyprus did not find himself having to wear two hats, so to speak, (because the issue is not "Turkishness", and what is not "Turkish" (read: "Greek"),) that the coin he keeps may have many markings, but that he keeps it, it is sure, for Cypriots.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/04/08/eide- ... territory/
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:47 pm

Lordo wrote:now here is a man who understands the cyprus problem.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/04/08/eide-economic-zone-is-not-sovereign-territory/


He is actually backing up from those statements now so that his comments are not misrepresented.

Are you misrepresenting his comments Lordo or has he already exposed himself as someone that cannot be trusted?
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:13 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:now here is a man who understands the cyprus problem.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/04/08/eide-economic-zone-is-not-sovereign-territory/


He is actually backing up from those statements now so that his comments are not misrepresented.

Are you misrepresenting his comments Lordo or has he already exposed himself as someone that cannot be trusted?

maximuimmu there is an old terggish saying. he who speaks the truth gets chased out of 9 villages.
gadalaves.
the world has woken.
the old myths are being discarded.
the end is nigh.
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:12 am

...he is trying to play his part. The Problem is complex, (he is only half-right) although this controversy may stimulate the clear thinking that is needed so that the Truth can be got at.

In any case, there is an element of "hijack" within the Republic, and there is no doubt that it is a question of illegal occupation. Eide would be helpful if he made it clear that his aim in essence is a Cypriot State, and that whether their exists a Turkish state or not depends on their willingness to recognise and respect that at another level of government this is possible. Eide would be helpful if he challenged the Leadership of the Turkish Constituency to fly the Flag of Cyprus, when it comes to their public representations, as Cypriots. Eide would be helpful if he challenged the President to free himself from the representations he must make as a Greek, because as the President of the Republic he would then be better able to serve his Citizens, not because they are the overwhelming population, but because without distinction or discrimination they are Cypriots. Mr Eide would be helpful if he asked, where is the Greek Constituency? A Greek Constituency is missing, if it is a BBF, these leaders are talking about. He would be helpful if he included Cyprus in his conversations, and Cypriots, people who are Cypriots, they don't get enough attention, rather than "Greeks", and those who are the bane as well, the "Turks".
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby Lordo » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:11 pm

come on rw, what is he half right about. has roc not been hijacked since december 1963. we better wake up and soon.
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:06 am

...hijacked, and occupied, it is not one or the other, they are not mutually exclusive, when it comes to intention the same Criminal element is active on both sides, Cypriots are excluded, "Greeks" and "Turks" are the same; do you deny it?
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Re: interesting thoughts by eide

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:27 am

there we agree.
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