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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby DT. » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:01 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Things are also going to get a lot worse for Cyprus and Greece as fewer people will have children and the younger generations migrate abroad.

That's what happens when there is nothing on offer for them.

3 Cyprus Airways Pilots were recently employed by Aegean but resigned within 1 month. Saudi Airlines, FLYNAS of Saudi Arabia, Jazeera of Kuwait and QATAR Airways along with Al Mahah (Saudi Arabia) to take the lot.

60 odd young families with children gone, to be educated in Arabic countries.

Another 50 Engineers with their families also going going gone!

Only man left standing is my mate who is retiring to his wine making.

Obviously they must believe there is going to be a new Cyprus Airways as promised by the RoC government who must think the majority of Cypriots are idiots.

Lets have a New Cyprus Airways that understands the basics. Modern Safe Aircraft, COMPETITIVE PRICING, attracting regular flyers who tend to fly with Easyjet and others.

Having just booked my flight with Easyjet, one way at £84.00, a real bargain, at this price I can afford to come to Cyprus for long weekends. Coming back about £50.

Had a bit of luck today, won the ....Lottery !!! Haven't told my other third who is joining me in Cyprus, if I did she will be asking for another ...handbag :lol: :lol:
May the 3rd I fly, the grandchildren are planning a 69th birthday surprise on Saturday May 9th, don't know what my other third is ...planning!!! :lol:



You'll be happy to hear that the new airline being planned is a discount flag carrier for Cyprus.


You're friggin dreaming.

Who is the Government to be planning when when it is the private investor who will decide the make up of such an Airline, and at the moment there is none and they would be crazy to even try it with Aegean setting up a hub at Larnaca?

Further to this, LCC means lower safety margins, lower service, and inexperienced crews. You will never be competitive when you pay next to nothing like Helios did. If you want Cyprus to be mainly serviced by LCC bringing CHAV British backpackers to Agia Napa like they do to Bali and Ibiza then go ahead.


WHo said anything about the govt? Its private with govt blessings.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:01 am

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Things are also going to get a lot worse for Cyprus and Greece as fewer people will have children and the younger generations migrate abroad.

That's what happens when there is nothing on offer for them.

3 Cyprus Airways Pilots were recently employed by Aegean but resigned within 1 month. Saudi Airlines, FLYNAS of Saudi Arabia, Jazeera of Kuwait and QATAR Airways along with Al Mahah (Saudi Arabia) to take the lot.

60 odd young families with children gone, to be educated in Arabic countries.

Another 50 Engineers with their families also going going gone!

Only man left standing is my mate who is retiring to his wine making.

Obviously they must believe there is going to be a new Cyprus Airways as promised by the RoC government who must think the majority of Cypriots are idiots.

Lets have a New Cyprus Airways that understands the basics. Modern Safe Aircraft, COMPETITIVE PRICING, attracting regular flyers who tend to fly with Easyjet and others.

Having just booked my flight with Easyjet, one way at £84.00, a real bargain, at this price I can afford to come to Cyprus for long weekends. Coming back about £50.

Had a bit of luck today, won the ....Lottery !!! Haven't told my other third who is joining me in Cyprus, if I did she will be asking for another ...handbag :lol: :lol:
May the 3rd I fly, the grandchildren are planning a 69th birthday surprise on Saturday May 9th, don't know what my other third is ...planning!!! :lol:



You'll be happy to hear that the new airline being planned is a discount flag carrier for Cyprus.


You're friggin dreaming.

Who is the Government to be planning when when it is the private investor who will decide the make up of such an Airline, and at the moment there is none and they would be crazy to even try it with Aegean setting up a hub at Larnaca?

Further to this, LCC means lower safety margins, lower service, and inexperienced crews. You will never be competitive when you pay next to nothing like Helios did. If you want Cyprus to be mainly serviced by LCC bringing CHAV British backpackers to Agia Napa like they do to Bali and Ibiza then go ahead.


WHo said anything about the govt? Its private with govt blessings.


The chances of a private firm outside an already established juggernaught is next to nil with the way Aegean have saturated the market.

You guys think we are all stupid.

It's a one way ticket to bankruptcy unless that juggernaught jumps in which will result in Aegean's bankruptcy.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:55 pm

Can we keep on topic and if we wish to discuss airlines, a worthy topic, do so is a dedicated thread?

This one is about Aging population.

Here is a link to a diagram of the Cyprus Population. http://populationpyramid.net/cyprus/2015/ which shows that there is in fact a bulge of those about 30 years old with quite a drop off after that of younger people. Quite simply there are a lot fewer young people as they were seemingly not born. The real difficulties will develop over the next 30 to 35 years, (where population is likely to peak in about 2045) and will likely last for as much as 60 years, in providing for that aging population.

It is real tragedy that many of younger people are leaving or are likely to leave, due to lack of opportunity.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby kurupetos » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:05 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Can we keep on topic and if we wish to discuss airlines, a worthy topic, do so is a dedicated thread?

This one is about Aging population.

Here is a link to a diagram of the Cyprus Population. http://populationpyramid.net/cyprus/2015/ which shows that there is in fact a bulge of those about 30 years old with quite a drop off after that of younger people. Quite simply there are a lot fewer young people as they were seemingly not born. The real difficulties will develop over the next 30 to 35 years, (where population is likely to peak in about 2045) and will likely last for as much as 60 years, in providing for that aging population.

It is real tragedy that many of younger people are leaving or are likely to leave, due to lack of opportunity.

No, the problem is old farts refuse to die.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:42 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Here is a link to a diagram of the Cyprus Population. http://populationpyramid.net/cyprus/2015/ which shows that there is in fact a bulge of those about 30 years old with quite a drop off after that of younger people.


That probably reflects the huge influx of migrants of working age and too many ex-pat British pensioners.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:25 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Here is a link to a diagram of the Cyprus Population. http://populationpyramid.net/cyprus/2015/ which shows that there is in fact a bulge of those about 30 years old with quite a drop off after that of younger people.


That probably reflects the huge influx of migrants of working age and too many ex-pat British pensioners.

Worry not boys and girls. This here young, 69 soon, will arrive in Cyprus full of youthfulness, vigour and .....wine :lol:
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby Lordo » Tue May 12, 2015 11:19 pm

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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby Nikitas » Tue May 12, 2015 11:45 pm

From what I read the whole of the developed world has a demographic problem, ie aging population, with Japan being the worst case. But isn't this what ethical ecologically minded nations should do? Lower their population?

It sounds like one of those damned if you do damned if you don't quandaries. The big deal will be when the world as a whole gets into this demographic groove. The theories will then dwarf global warming for sensationalism. We might even be subsidised to procreate. Nothing puts a flame up politicians asses as a dwindling market.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 13, 2015 2:19 am

Nikitas wrote:From what I read the whole of the developed world has a demographic problem, ie aging population, with Japan being the worst case. But isn't this what ethical ecologically minded nations should do? Lower their population?

It sounds like one of those damned if you do damned if you don't quandaries. The big deal will be when the world as a whole gets into this demographic groove. The theories will then dwarf global warming for sensationalism. We might even be subsidised to procreate. Nothing puts a flame up politicians asses as a dwindling market.


Maybe they should have compulsory Euthanasia for everyone above the age of 75. :lol:

think of all the advantages:
lower health costs,
less cancer,
lower world population,
less people on welfare,
no Milti,
and all of CF will be dead in just a few years! :D

Only me and Cap will be left and we will rule the forum.
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Re: Cyprus is aging with fewer and fewer less young people

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed May 13, 2015 10:40 am

There is a very interesting graphic here showing the changes in the population Pyramid over time.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cyprus-population-pyramid
This shows there was a post war baby boom in the period to say 1955 or so which worked its way up as time went on. In 1975 the bulge of 15-19 was 12 % of population where as 0-4 yo were about half that.
Then there was a second bulge in the late 1980's / early 90's when 0-4 yo were about 10% of population, probably mostly as those born in the period say 1945 to 1955 or so had Children, possibly slightly late but events in 1974 and the apparent economic growth in the unoccupied zone from that probably had an influence. That accounts for at least a part of the bulge in population we know see in those aged 25 to 35 or so, but I agree with gIG that at least some of the bulge will be imported workers.
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