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Re: opening ercan

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:04 pm

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Turkey is operating the Airport under its own CAA. Their Airlines are the only ones flying there. At the same time they are saying the Airport belongs to the "trnc" but please tell me who the regulator from the "trnc" is.

It gets very messy if another airline like Malaysian, QANTAS or whoever else choose to fly there. Basically, this airline would have chosen to operate to an Airport which is occupied and which has no official regulator approved by the RoC. It's a very dangerous step and a legal minefield should an airline willfully take passengers to an illegal port of entry. Firstly, their insurance is void. If they crash, then who will pay?


Ok fine. What if the company that undertakes those direct flights (to and from) is the existing one at the occupied, I believe they are called TC Airlines... All the risk is theirs, while the RoC turns a blind eye. Would that be possible?
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:07 pm

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Turkey is operating the Airport under its own CAA. Their Airlines are the only ones flying there. At the same time they are saying the Airport belongs to the "trnc" but please tell me who the regulator from the "trnc" is.

It gets very messy if another airline like Malaysian, QANTAS or whoever else choose to fly there. Basically, this airline would have chosen to operate to an Airport which is occupied and which has no official regulator approved by the RoC. It's a very dangerous step and a legal minefield should an airline willfully take passengers to an illegal port of entry. Firstly, their insurance is void. If they crash, then who will pay?


Ok fine. What if the company that undertakes those direct flights (to and from) is the existing one at the occupied, I believe they are called TC Airlines... All the risk is theirs, while the RoC turns a blind eye. Would that be possible?


These airlines have a Turkish AoC. They are operating under a Turkish license.

It's not a problem for the airline if they got a Turkish underwriter.

Maybe it's even Turkey who underwrites the Airlines because it's political.

There will probably be issues for direct flights between are an and another legal port of entry in another country. Who will cover that should it crash. It will have to be Turkey but maybe the other countries will not accept these flights from an illegal port.

It's extremely complicated and I am not pretending I know all the ins and outs. I just have a bit of an idea.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:12 pm

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Sotos wrote:So you want a WRITTEN agreement that will say that we will "turn a blind eye"? :lol: Or maybe this will be done verbally and they will also say that they will not give Varosha back ... but they will "turn a blind eye" if any of our refugees jump over the fences and go live in the ruins :lol:


It won't be written you fool. Haven't you heard of gentlemen's agreement? I have done hundreds of those and they work better than written agreements. For one you can abolish them if the other side does not keep her promises.


:lol: :lol: We are not talking about your dealings in your village here. You are really very naive.


It's actually dealing with German and italian firms.Before I was doing dealings with the British too, but now replaced them with Poland. :wink:


Yeah, let me see, you expect us to give up our country to Turkey on a say so, a 'gentleman's' agreement, ha ha fucking ha. Are you for real re?

We saw their 'Gentleman's agreement' with the Customs Union, the football signatures and any other agreement they ever 'agreed to.

I had you penned for a smart guy, but seems to me you are an ass.

As for who will complain to Turkey, exactly, who, since the west has allowed them to do this, who is Cyprus to do much else. We can't even get the soliarity of the member states of the EU to support us. Are you that stupid. Mate, either you are shafting a Turk or you are being shafted by one because is seems to only explanation for your continued support for them.

Soto, best to give up on this one, he is a lost cause.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:14 pm

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Re: opening ercan

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:22 pm

B25 wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:So you want a WRITTEN agreement that will say that we will "turn a blind eye"? :lol: Or maybe this will be done verbally and they will also say that they will not give Varosha back ... but they will "turn a blind eye" if any of our refugees jump over the fences and go live in the ruins :lol:


It won't be written you fool. Haven't you heard of gentlemen's agreement? I have done hundreds of those and they work better than written agreements. For one you can abolish them if the other side does not keep her promises.


:lol: :lol: We are not talking about your dealings in your village here. You are really very naive.


It's actually dealing with German and italian firms.Before I was doing dealings with the British too, but now replaced them with Poland. :wink:


Yeah, let me see, you expect us to give up our country to Turkey on a say so, a 'gentleman's' agreement, ha ha fucking ha. Are you for real re?

We saw their 'Gentleman's agreement' with the Customs Union, the football signatures and any other agreement they ever 'agreed to.

I had you penned for a smart guy, but seems to me you are an ass.

As for who will complain to Turkey, exactly, who, since the west has allowed them to do this, who is Cyprus to do much else. We can't even get the soliarity of the member states of the EU to support us. Are you that stupid. Mate, either you are shafting a Turk or you are being shafted by one because is seems to only explanation for your continued support for them.

Soto, best to give up on this one, he is a lost cause.

its a comin at you like a steam roller and is going to squish you like a piece of turd that you are.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:22 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:NP


Don't worry about it mate.

Everyone has a right to express an opinion and you were just exploring ideas about the return of Varosha.

People find it threatening and then they get abusive.

You're on the right track though. A solution is going to require compromise, but are THEY ready to compromise? So far we have been the only ones offering one compromise after another.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:24 pm

B25 wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:So you want a WRITTEN agreement that will say that we will "turn a blind eye"? :lol: Or maybe this will be done verbally and they will also say that they will not give Varosha back ... but they will "turn a blind eye" if any of our refugees jump over the fences and go live in the ruins :lol:


It won't be written you fool. Haven't you heard of gentlemen's agreement? I have done hundreds of those and they work better than written agreements. For one you can abolish them if the other side does not keep her promises.


:lol: :lol: We are not talking about your dealings in your village here. You are really very naive.


It's actually dealing with German and italian firms.Before I was doing dealings with the British too, but now replaced them with Poland. :wink:


Yeah, let me see, you expect us to give up our country to Turkey on a say so, a 'gentleman's' agreement, ha ha fucking ha. Are you for real re?

We saw their 'Gentleman's agreement' with the Customs Union, the football signatures and any other agreement they ever 'agreed to.

I had you penned for a smart guy, but seems to me you are an ass.

As for who will complain to Turkey, exactly, who, since the west has allowed them to do this, who is Cyprus to do much else. We can't even get the soliarity of the member states of the EU to support us. Are you that stupid. Mate, either you are shafting a Turk or you are being shafted by one because is seems to only explanation for your continued support for them.

Soto, best to give up on this one, he is a lost cause.


Stop pulling your prick :mrgreen:
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:03 pm

the man has to right to pleasure himself especially when he cant get a woman.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:32 pm

...opening ercan, is not at all difficult, if the Republic of Cyprus is recognised as its Authority. It is a matter of International Agreement, and it is not an issue of Language, or service, but safety above everything else.

What is best ''traded'' for Varosha, if the Turkish Constituency wants to demonstrate they too have a Cypriot identity? They should seek from their gesture, if it is as a community, an equal, a Greek Constituency (at least, if not a set of Cypriot Constituencies, at another level of governement); not the Airport, which is the benefit of being Cypriot, rather than the benefit of having an airport, which is their case today, dependent on Turkey.
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Re: opening ercan

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:30 pm

rw we dont live in cloud land. erdogan is threatening to cut financial aid. it could bring down akinci faster than a lead balloon. opening airport will help tc economy to be self sufficient. for the first time we have a chance to make progress and it will be ignored like the rest of them. we want the tcs to tell erdogan to furk off if he cuts the finance. gc on here seem not to care. it is beyond belief that they prefer the status quo. they are thinking they have gas coming and it will be alright after that. i got news for you boys without an agreement there is no gas or oil. you will get whacked if you try.
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