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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat May 09, 2015 11:01 am

William Hill the bookmakers is giving odds of 1/2 against the UK remaining in the EU and 6/4 against it leaving.
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby gardash » Sat May 09, 2015 2:25 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:We need to erase the Turkish language from Cyprus - like the EU has done. :)

Don't know where you get that from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Cyprus
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat May 09, 2015 2:37 pm

From information about Cyprus on the website of the Permanent Representation of the Republic of Cyprus to the European Union:

Official Languages: Greek, Turkish


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/PermRep/PermR ... enDocument
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 09, 2015 2:58 pm

Turkish is NO LONGER an official language of the RoC. The whole of the RoC is in the EU.

The European Union has 24 official and working languages.

They are:


Bulgarian
French
Maltese
Croatian
German
Polish
Czech
Greek
Portuguese
Danish
Hungarian
Romanian
Dutch
Irish
Slovak
English
Italian
Slovenian
Estonian
Latvian
Spanish
Finnish
Lithuanian
Swedish


The first official language policy of what was then the European Community identified Dutch, French, German, and Italian as the official working languages of the EU.
Since then, as more countries have become part of the EU, the number of official and working languages has increased. However, there are fewer official languages than Member States, as some share common languages.


http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat May 09, 2015 3:36 pm

It is clear from Article 4 of Protocol 10 to the Act concerning the conditions of accession of the Czech Republic, the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Cyprus, the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Lithuania, the Republic of Hungary, the Republic of Malta, the Republic of Poland, the Republic of Slovenia and the Slovak Republic and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the European Union is founded:

“In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.”

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... 03T/PRO/10

that Turkish will become an official EU language if there is a settlement of the Cyprus problem.
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat May 09, 2015 3:39 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Turkish is NO LONGER an official language of the RoC. The whole of the RoC is in the EU.

The European Union has 24 official and working languages.

They are:


Bulgarian
French
Maltese
Croatian
German
Polish
Czech
Greek
Portuguese
Danish
Hungarian
Romanian
Dutch
Irish
Slovak
English
Italian
Slovenian
Estonian
Latvian
Spanish
Finnish
Lithuanian
Swedish


The first official language policy of what was then the European Community identified Dutch, French, German, and Italian as the official working languages of the EU.
Since then, as more countries have become part of the EU, the number of official and working languages has increased. However, there are fewer official languages than Member States, as some share common languages.


http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm


Please refer to paragraph one of article three of the constitution of the Republic of Cyprus:

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/presidency ... tution.pdf
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat May 09, 2015 3:47 pm

Luxembourgish is an official language of Luxembourg, but it is not an official EU language. The fact that a language is not an official language of the EU does not necessarily prove that it is not an official language in any member state.
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 09, 2015 4:19 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Turkish is NO LONGER an official language of the RoC. The whole of the RoC is in the EU.

The European Union has 24 official and working languages.

They are:


Bulgarian
French
Maltese
Croatian
German
Polish
Czech
Greek
Portuguese
Danish
Hungarian
Romanian
Dutch
Irish
Slovak
English
Italian
Slovenian
Estonian
Latvian
Spanish
Finnish
Lithuanian
Swedish


The first official language policy of what was then the European Community identified Dutch, French, German, and Italian as the official working languages of the EU.
Since then, as more countries have become part of the EU, the number of official and working languages has increased. However, there are fewer official languages than Member States, as some share common languages.


http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm


Please refer to paragraph one of article three of the constitution of the Republic of Cyprus:

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/presidency ... tution.pdf


History!!!!!!!

The constitution was written by the British Imperialists and the Cypriots were blackmailed into accepting it. The EU is slowly improving the ignored human rights of the native Greeks of the island.

Some details on the "Sovereign Bases" have been changed since the RoC entered the EU, too! :wink:
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 10, 2015 1:03 am

Tim Drayton wrote:It is clear from Article 4 of Protocol 10 to the Act concerning the conditions of accession of the Czech Republic, the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Cyprus, the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Lithuania, the Republic of Hungary, the Republic of Malta, the Republic of Poland, the Republic of Slovenia and the Slovak Republic and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the European Union is founded:

“In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.”

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... 03T/PRO/10

that Turkish will become an official EU language if there is a settlement of the Cyprus problem.


Thank you Tim.
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Re: A little look back at Cyprus history

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun May 10, 2015 9:20 am

Tim Drayton wrote:It is clear from Article 4 of Protocol 10 to the Act concerning the conditions of accession of the Czech Republic, the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Cyprus, the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Lithuania, the Republic of Hungary, the Republic of Malta, the Republic of Poland, the Republic of Slovenia and the Slovak Republic and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the European Union is founded:

“In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... 03T/PRO/10

that Turkish will become an official EU language if there is a settlement of the Cyprus problem.


The last sentence is your own. It doesn't state anywhere that 'Turkish will become an official EU language'.

Surely, the conditions for allowing the TC community into the EU are there to be decided (as the article makes explicit) - not imposed by the Turkish background of TCs or the unfair demands of a belligerent minority .... or by the desires of a Turkish translator.

Cyprus needs the constitutional changes that the EU can finally offer to rectify the dictatorial imperialist slavic conditions imposed by the British which make Greek Cypriots perpetually exploitable by both Turkey and Britain, right?
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