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[GreekIslandGirl]

Even if slaves built something, why should we not stand and gaze in marvel? It does not mean we approve of slavery, just that the building fills us with wonder - unlike DAESH which supports and promotes slavery in breach of international law.

My point exactly. Every monument is a testament to our history and part of our development as more civilised creatures. Perhaps it is this which irks the savages that want to undo everything man or god has created.

[The aside on the Parthenon (to Lordo's query) was an example for avoiding misinformed generalisations as well as serving as a paradigm on how long we have been practicing humanity and fairness - that even 2,500 years ago, the State helped its citizens to lead a better life rather than what ISIS are doing, even today, something which is primitive and monstrous.]

[Lordo]

Even if slaves built something, why should we not stand and gaze in marvel? It does not mean we approve of slavery, just that the building fills us with wonder - unlike DAESH which supports and promotes slavery in breach of international law.

My point exactly. Every monument is a testament to our history and part of our development as more civilised creatures. Perhaps it is this which irks the savages that want to undo everything man or god has created.

[The aside on the Parthenon (to Lordo's query) was an example for avoiding misinformed generalisations as well as serving as a paradigm on how long we have been practicing humanity and fairness - that even 2,500 years ago, the State helped its citizens to lead a better life rather than what ISIS are doing, even today, something which is primitive and monstrous.]

and the slaves?
what about the invasion of lands from africa to india. what the hell were you doing in inda, did you run of curry or somefink. you barbarians.

what about this marrying your brother and sister stuff come from then. why did the do that for.

is it true that greeks thought the job of the testicles was to tighten the vocal chords and make the voice of boys break to manhood. how the hell does tightening anything reduce its tone. were they tone deaf or somefink.

[repulsewarrior]

...and what gives "us" the right to tear them down?

[Lordo]

let him that is without sin cast the first stone

[Paphitis]

Even if slaves built something, why should we not stand and gaze in marvel? It does not mean we approve of slavery, just that the building fills us with wonder - unlike DAESH which supports and promotes slavery in breach of international law.

My point exactly. Every monument is a testament to our history and part of our development as more civilised creatures. Perhaps it is this which irks the savages that want to undo everything man or god has created.

[The aside on the Parthenon (to Lordo's query) was an example for avoiding misinformed generalisations as well as serving as a paradigm on how long we have been practicing humanity and fairness - that even 2,500 years ago, the State helped its citizens to lead a better life rather than what ISIS are doing, even today, something which is primitive and monstrous.]

No use comparing DAESH to Ancient Greek Civilisation. We know it's chalk and cheese.

there were no generalizations being made apart from Lordo and Garavnos. But at the same time, you can't deny that slavery in Ancient Greece was rampant and slave labour was utilized in the construction of the Parthenon.

[Paphitis]

let him that is without sin cast the first stone

You also can't be comparing DAESH to an Ancient Civilisation 2500 years ago. That civilisation offered so much, and DAESH offer nothing but brutality.

[Lordo]

let him that is without sin cast the first stone

You also can't be comparing DAESH to an Ancient Civilisation 2500 years ago. That civilisation offered so much, and DAESH offer nothing but brutality.

and what the greeks were less brutal 2500 years ago. as milti says pull the other one the middle one has johnny walker on it red label.

[Paphitis]

let him that is without sin cast the first stone

You also can't be comparing DAESH to an Ancient Civilisation 2500 years ago. That civilisation offered so much, and DAESH offer nothing but brutality.

and what the greeks were less brutal 2500 years ago. as milti says pull the other one the middle one has johnny walker on it red label.

Maybe as brutal as any other empire (Alexander the Great), but they also offered a great deal more than that - Maths, Geometry, Literature, Science, Medicine, Democracy and more.

[Tim Drayton]

let him that is without sin cast the first stone

You also can't be comparing DAESH to an Ancient Civilisation 2500 years ago. That civilisation offered so much, and DAESH offer nothing but brutality.

and what the greeks were less brutal 2500 years ago. as milti says pull the other one the middle one has johnny walker on it red label.

Maybe as brutal as any other empire (Alexander the Great), but they also offered a great deal more than that - Maths, Geometry, Literature, Science, Medicine, Democracy and more.

Maths? It is worth noting that DAESH prohibits the teaching of maths in schools in the places where it has established its brutal rule. Once more, so ironic and sad given that mathematics was born in Mesopotamia, not far from the territory now under the control of these ideologically bankrupt nihilists.

[GreekIslandGirl]

and what the greeks were less brutal 2500 years ago.

The facts suggest that indeed the Greeks were far less brutal 2,500 years ago than other side-by-side societies and certainly the Greeks of 2,500 years ago were far more civilised than ISIS are today.

If you want to compare (in order to excuse) ISIS with some random brutal behaviour practiced 2,500 years ago, I'm sure there were plenty brutal groups (early Turkish-ancestors in Mongolia for example - even the Chinese wanted to keep them out). But to use the ancient Greeks as examples of brutal regimes is only to show your ignorance of the Classics.

Look hard into your psyche Lordo and finally grasp what you are saying - that the barbarity of ISIS compares to the worst of behaviour from the long-ago past, and that is fine? - then, you should feel shame and finally shut up (please).

Look to modern equivalents of ISIS's brutalities and the nearest you will find are their cousins the Turks!