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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:56 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Idiotic author/article of the week...

"U.S. Shoots Itself In the Foot By Accidentally Arming ISIS"

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/06/0 ... vWRqP.dpuf

I assure you that the US never does anything "accidentally" and especially repeating the same "accident" a dozen times! :lol:


Provide the evidence.

You see old chap, it's one thing for you to "assure us" but the world don't work that way. We require evidence and maybe, should this evidence exist, it should be provided to the US Federal Court System which I am sure would be very interested in this factual information you might have that the US is actively arming and supporting ISIS whilst at the same time bomb the crap out of them. With "allies" like this, who needs enemies right?

So you assume that the world’s wealthiest and most intelligent intelligence has the same IQ as you and just keeps repeating disastrous mistakes that impede the defeat of a bunch of Arab goat shaggers!

…and whereas the attacks on Saddam Housein’s Iraq (30 years earlier) were executed with perfection and with not a single incident of “Woopsy, we’ve dropped off our supplies to the Republican Guard!”

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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:10 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Idiotic author/article of the week...

"U.S. Shoots Itself In the Foot By Accidentally Arming ISIS"

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/06/0 ... vWRqP.dpuf

I assure you that the US never does anything "accidentally" and especially repeating the same "accident" a dozen times! :lol:


Provide the evidence.

You see old chap, it's one thing for you to "assure us" but the world don't work that way. We require evidence and maybe, should this evidence exist, it should be provided to the US Federal Court System which I am sure would be very interested in this factual information you might have that the US is actively arming and supporting ISIS whilst at the same time bomb the crap out of them. With "allies" like this, who needs enemies right?

So you assume that the world’s wealthiest and most intelligent intelligence has the same IQ as you and just keeps repeating disastrous mistakes that impede the defeat of a bunch of Arab goat shaggers!

…and whereas the attacks on Saddam Housein’s Iraq (30 years earlier) were executed with perfection and with not a single incident of “Woopsy, we’ve dropped off our supplies to the Republican Guard!”

:lol: :lol: :lol:


The attacks on Iraq involved the deployment of thousands of allied troops.

Today, we only have about 5,000 troops acting in an advisory and training role, and we don't even have forward scouts for target acquisition.

There is a big difference.

Further to this, we are not in complete control of what the Iraqi Forces will do. The arms were captured from them and were in no way supplied to ISIL by the USA or allies.

Today, aircraft have to engage a target rather than have the coordinates called out by ground troops who will also illuminate the target to be destroyed. Much more dangerous it is too, with a greater potential for civilian casualties.

And we do not drop off supplies to ISIL.

You've lost the plot mate! :lol:
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:19 am

Yet more evidence of the US’ criminal ISIS games in the ME:

"Pentagon fires second propaganda salvo in Syria"

“A U.S. warplane dropped the leaflet bomb May 17 on Raqqa, Syria, the self-proclaimed capital of the Islamic State, also known as ISIL and its Arabic acronym Daesh.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /28470813/

If the US is so out to get them why are they repeatedly warning them with leaflets that they're gonna bomb the "capital of the Islamic State" instead of just bombing it to smithereens in a surprise attack???

And before you come up with garbage like “because they care about innocent lives”, they don't seem to give any shit about innocent lives in Afghanistan do they...

“US Drones Attack Afghanistan Funeral, Killing 34 Mourners"

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/06/05/us-d ... -mourners/

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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:33 am

Get Real! wrote:Yet more evidence of the US’ criminal ISIS games in the ME:

"Pentagon fires second propaganda salvo in Syria"

“A U.S. warplane dropped the leaflet bomb May 17 on Raqqa, Syria, the self-proclaimed capital of the Islamic State, also known as ISIL and its Arabic acronym Daesh.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /28470813/

If the US is so out to get them why are they repeatedly warning them with leaflets that they're gonna bomb the "capital of the Islamic State" instead of just bombing it to smithereens in a surprise attack???

And before you come up with garbage like “because they care about innocent lives”, they don't seem to give any shit about innocent lives in Afghanistan do they...

“US Drones Attack Afghanistan Funeral, Killing 34 Mourners"

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/06/05/us-d ... -mourners/

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Total crap!

Why on earth would a drone attack a funeral if they were not Taliban? Do you think we are stupid? You make it sound like a drone would just attack a funeral for the hell of it.

You silly man. They are warning civilians to take every measure to protect themselves because they might be in the area where the US is going to bomb. It's a sincere effort to minimise civilian casualties.

Yes we want to destroy ISIL but we don't want to kill hundreds of civilians in the process. If we can get the civilians out the way, ISIL can't hide from our bombs anywhere. ISIL use them as Human Shields which is why they are storing their weapons near schools, hospitals etc.

The majority in Raqqa do not support ISIL as we have seen from their very brave Facebook Pages and blogs where they seem to celebrate every US attack.

Attacking Raqqa "by surprise" and blowing it to "smithereens as this stupid Journalist seems to think is a better option, will also catch civilians by surprise and many of them will die. It's not something we want or can afford to happen so willy nilly. We want to minimise this if not elliminate the risk completely if possible.

You will be one of the first to jump up and down should a wayward bomb kill innocent civilians.

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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:56 am

Can you tell us who is exactly is changing the goal posts again? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Get Real, I got to hand it to you mate. You're friggin hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:45 am

The difference here is that it is the Iraqi armed forces that are crumbling in the face of much smaller numbers of irregular fighters and abandoning large quantities of arms donated to them by the Americans. I agree that this raises serious questions, as articulated in the following article:

Dude, where’s my Humvee?
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/06/07/dude- ... my-humvee/

I still find it counterintuitive that the Iraqi armed forces would, simply at the behest of the Americans, donate arms to a gang of terrorists who have taken control of a significant portion of their country’s territory, or that the Americans would arm the same gang that they are operating an air campaign against.
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:47 am

Turkey’s Cumhuriyet newspaper has uncovered the fact that the Turkish intelligence service has been transporting arms and fighters from one DAESH camp in Syria to another through Turkey.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... rduk_.html
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:11 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The difference here is that it is the Iraqi armed forces that are crumbling in the face of much smaller numbers of irregular fighters and abandoning large quantities of arms donated to them by the Americans. I agree that this raises serious questions, as articulated in the following article:

Dude, where’s my Humvee?
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/06/07/dude- ... my-humvee/

I still find it counterintuitive that the Iraqi armed forces would, simply at the behest of the Americans, donate arms to a gang of terrorists who have taken control of a significant portion of their country’s territory, or that the Americans would arm the same gang that they are operating an air campaign against.


I think it might have something to do with Iran.

It appears to me that Iraq and Iran and playing some kind of game to set up Iran as the savior and make it look like the nice guy ahead of the US/Iran summit.

It could also explain why the don't want the Western Troops to help them.
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:54 am

Never mind Iraq and the hopeless Iraqi armed forces. There is good news on another front. In Syria, the Kurdish YPG forces have liberated the strategically important town of Tel Abyad from the DAESH death cult. This town lies on the border with Turkey and has been the main supply route from Turkey to DAESH's so-called capital of Raqqa. There is news of DAESH fighters fleeing for their lives to Turkey (five of them were reported to have been detained by the Turkish army and taken away in armoured vehicles). Funny! I thought the whole aim of this cult was to die as a martyr.
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Re: Iraqi Security Forces Air Strikes on Mosul!

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:36 am

There is footage here of DAESH bandits escaping from their 72 virgins into Turkey and being detained by the Turkish army, although it seems that quite a few managed to get into Turkey unhindered:

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/video/vide ... lindi.html
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