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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:how the hell do you know what the tc population was in 1974. and not the 45,000 but 60,000 tcs did not head north, they were forced into concentration camps first those that you did not kill and then forced to go north. gr you talk a lot of crap most of the time.

Demographics can be easily obtained from a dozen sources. Here's one...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cyprus

really and how long has this site been allowed into a court of law as a reference point.

you know better stop fooling the naive swine here.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:13 pm

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Maximus wrote:Pyrp,

I have a TC in my family, married to my cousin. We get on great but we do not talk politics.

Most Tc's I have met are good people. Just dont talk politics, or until you have an argument over something and they let everything out. There are exceptions. I had a good female friend who was TC. we shared a moment. :D

I remember a long time ago, we lived next door to a TC family in the UK for years. Father TC, mother from Turkey. They had sons, we used to play footie together, always round each others houses. eating, watching movies, playing video games, cracking jokes. We were like brothers. For years. When solomou tried to take down the Turkish flag and got shot in the neck, obviously it was all over the Turkish and Greek news. The TC father came out in to his garden and met my dad, who was also outside in our garden and they had an argument. He said something which was inappropriate and things were not the same between them again. Obviously, he was defending the Turks.



I am glad you have first hand experience. I agree once you start talking politics the situation may go astray within seconds,like in this forum.
I only talked politics with one TC that I met, it was OK within mutual understanding spirit. I even asked him if he lost a loved one over the years. He said one of his uncles was found shot dead in the 60s.He said he was a TMT. He stressed to me they DON'T know who killed him. I pushed him a bit telling him "OK you DON'T know who killed him,but don't you personally think the GC's did it?" He reluctantly told me that Denktash had him in the list of martyrs as been killed by GCs, but the reality is the guy was messing around with married women. :wink:



These instances are experienced by both GCS and TCs . It's nothing new . My father in law is GC and when he starts talking politics I just listen out of respect to him as the father of my wife . I don't agree with some of his viewpoint but then again I don't agree with my dads viewpoint either. One thing I do know for a fact is that my father in law is a true cypriot and wants a real solution and if the majority of GCS are like him then no one needs gurantors . Cyprus will survive on its own . We know that there are dangerous people like b25 or get real or Nikita or cyprus island girl s of this world. It is these types of characters that yes I would not be confident in going into a deal without gurantors because they can potentially be the Eoka type of people that would want to go out like vigilantes and murder a few TCs .
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:03 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:We know that there are dangerous people like b25 or get real or Nikita or cyprus island girl s of this world. It is these types of characters that yes I would not be confident in going into a deal without gurantors because they can potentially be the Eoka type of people that would want to go out like vigilantes and murder a few TCs .

Yes, Nikitas especially is extremely dangerous... a former Nov 17th ringleader. :lol:
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:11 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The real numbers are these:
from 1960-1974 (mainly during 1963-67): 25000 TC refugees
in 1974. About 200,000 GC refugees.
In 1974:ZERO TC refugees.
In 1975 under the 3rd Vienna agreement (after turkey;s threat that she would advance again to "liberate" the Tcs living around in the non occupied area) 50,000 TCs moved under UN escort from the free areas to the occupied.

Real comparison of situations:
25,000 TC Refugees from 1960 to 1974- remained homeless (21% of their population)
200,000 GC Refugees in 1974 -remained homeless (40% of their population)
None of the 50000 TC displaced in 1975 remained homeless, in fact they went to the occupied and got 2-3 times more stolen property than what they had left behind.

show me a single document from un that gives the figure of gc at 200,000. you know very well it was 160,000. why do you feel the need to exaggerate. when it comes to the tcs the figure 25,000 is what was left in cyprus after 1967. between 1963 ans 1967 a lot of tcs left cyprus with neither side keeping records deliberately because it suited them. i expect more fairness from you but actually you are worse because you are the wolf in sheep clothing.


I already gave a link Lordo kelle pattiha. Did you read it yes or no? just to make your Kelle patiha less dizzy here's a copy paste
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The UNHCR registers slightly higher figures of 200,000
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:30 pm

where? why does it conflict with the un figure of 160,000. let me guess the unhshit figure was calculated by a gc judge. is that it?
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:44 am

Get Real! wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:We know that there are dangerous people like b25 or get real or Nikita or cyprus island girl s of this world. It is these types of characters that yes I would not be confident in going into a deal without gurantors because they can potentially be the Eoka type of people that would want to go out like vigilantes and murder a few TCs .

Yes, Nikitas especially is extremely dangerous... a former Nov 17th ringleader. :lol:


LORDO MY FIGURES WERE FROM UN AS I CHOSE TO BE UNBIASED OR ECONOMICAL WITH TRUTHS. IT IS ALL WAYS MORE ACCURATE TO GET A INDEPENDANTLY GATHERED DATA AND NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH THAT AND ANYONE THAT DOES AND USES THEIR OWN MASSAGED FIGURES NEED TO REALISE THAT THEIR FIGURES DO NOT COUNT.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:51 am

Get Real! wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:We know that there are dangerous people like b25 or get real or Nikita or cyprus island girl s of this world. It is these types of characters that yes I would not be confident in going into a deal without gurantors because they can potentially be the Eoka type of people that would want to go out like vigilantes and murder a few TCs .

Yes, Nikitas especially is extremely dangerous... a former Nov 17th ringleader. :lol:



THE WORRYING THING ABOUT YOU SIR IS THAT YOU DONT EVEN ARGUE AGAINST MY TEXT INCLUDING YOU IN THIS TOPIC. IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU. IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR MIND SET HENCE YOU HAVE NO NEED TO ARGUE AGAINST IT. YOU SEE I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAY THINGS JUST TO WIND PEOPLE UP LIKE I DO SOMETIMES BUT YOU SERIOUSLY ARE CERY EXTREME IN YOUR VIEWS. CHILL OUT MAN AND EMBRACE THE FUTURE THAT WE WILL HAVE TOGETHER IN A UNITED CYPRUS. I BET THESE WORDS ARE HURTING YOU LOL
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:05 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:We know that there are dangerous people like b25 or get real or Nikita or cyprus island girl s of this world. It is these types of characters that yes I would not be confident in going into a deal without gurantors because they can potentially be the Eoka type of people that would want to go out like vigilantes and murder a few TCs .

Yes, Nikitas especially is extremely dangerous... a former Nov 17th ringleader. :lol:



THE WORRYING THING ABOUT YOU SIR IS THAT YOU DONT EVEN ARGUE AGAINST MY TEXT INCLUDING YOU IN THIS TOPIC. IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU. IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR MIND SET HENCE YOU HAVE NO NEED TO ARGUE AGAINST IT. YOU SEE I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAY THINGS JUST TO WIND PEOPLE UP LIKE I DO SOMETIMES BUT YOU SERIOUSLY ARE CERY EXTREME IN YOUR VIEWS. CHILL OUT MAN AND EMBRACE THE FUTURE THAT WE WILL HAVE TOGETHER IN A UNITED CYPRUS. I BET THESE WORDS ARE HURTING YOU LOL

Do you really believe you would stand a chance in a debate if I were to take you seriously? :lol:

Dude, you’re just a rookie in training here so be quiet and keep practicing. You’ll know when I take you seriously...
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:07 pm

no need for this now
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:14 pm

Lordo wrote:no need for this now

He needs to learn the pecking order... :lol:
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