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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Mustiejodu » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:52 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:British Defence and Overseas Policy Committee (1964) - Brief

5. The High Commission concludes that although enosis is in some way more attractive than the unitary state, Turkey's objections to it are so strong that it may not be a practicable solution at present. He suggested, therefore, that efforts should be concentrated on easing the path to a unitary state, e.g. by providing U.N. safeguards for the minority and by giving financial and other assistance for the resettling of those Turkish Cypriots to whom Cyprus may no longer appear a tolerable home.



Very interesting in the context this is written. Why would it not be a tolerable home ? I would have loved to have asked this overseas policy committee to clarify the contents of this briefing.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:59 pm

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:British Defence and Overseas Policy Committee (1964) - Brief

5. The High Commission concludes that although enosis is in some way more attractive than the unitary state, Turkey's objections to it are so strong that it may not be a practicable solution at present. He suggested, therefore, that efforts should be concentrated on easing the path to a unitary state, e.g. by providing U.N. safeguards for the minority and by giving financial and other assistance for the resettling of those Turkish Cypriots to whom Cyprus may no longer appear a tolerable home.



Very interesting in the context this is written. Why would it not be a tolerable home ? I would have loved to have asked this overseas policy committee to clarify the contents of this briefing.


Glad you mentioned it.

The context was to do with Britain wanting to amend the 1960 Constitution to make it Democratic. Basically, they were saying, if you don't like western democratic systems based on one-person-one vote, you might find it more tolerable in Turkey.

It's the old Brit'n diplomacy speak.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:10 pm

Context: Extract from the letter of Head of Southern European Department, Sir Reginald Louis Secondé to the High Commissioner to Cyprus, Peter Ramsbotham.

We have been through the 1963 papers, which tend to confirm that the Thirteen Points were indeed framed with British help and encouragement; that the then High Commissioner [Clark] considered them to be reasonable proposals; and our intention was to promote their acceptance by the Turks.


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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Lordo » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:49 pm

you can fool a lot of people a lot of the time. but you never fool some people ever. as if you do not know what magarios was up to. why he wanted to change the constitution.
as milti would say pull the over one love.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:18 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:The only flag poll I use is the one of the Republic of Cyprus which I shove up your ass while you are crying about the isolation of your unrecognized pseudo state. Don't hope that there will be ever a recognized "Turkish State" of any kind in Cyprus. You are doomed to live in a pseudo state until the day we are ready to take back what belongs to us.



Peace be upon your unsettled soal. You are TRUELY a very angry person. I think you need to worry about a real threat which is isis and not only we will be doomed you will also be doomed. What ever anger you want to vent out you need to harvest it and think intellectually. Not is the time or place for your threatening behaviour but a time to think and act rationally so that will make the whole of cyprus strong. I don't cry or scare from human threat from a forum member. What scares me are those brainwashed Isis who TRUELY believe we are all infidels and by killing us they will go to heaven. Do you believe that if you killed every TC that you would go to heaven. Is that the teachings of your faith ? No it's not and I don't think your brainwashed or if any extremist faith so stop your childish unfounded threats.


Turkey is the real threat for Cyprus. It is Turkey which is occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops and ethnically cleansed 200.000 Cypriots... not ISIS. ISIS are small potatoes compared to Turkey... stop trying to divert the real issue here. If you want peace then you have to give back what belongs to us. You are welcomed as equal Cypriot citizens and as a Cypriot minority... but there will be no peace where you gain on our expense. And if you think it is OK for you to support "solutions" based on our ethnic cleansing then I am also entitled to support the same kind of solutions but on your expense.



Sotos . I feel a bit insulted by your one sided opinion. As a cypriot myself my relatives were also masacred by some of your people who are cypriot so we have a lot to loose in this deal but we have to move on. The expense of a human life has no value and nothing can bring a dead person back to life. When I say we have a lot to loose I am referring to we are willing to take a risk to live together again. Sotos I don't have any land that belongs to you as one of my parents is from afanya and the other is from lurugina and their land belongs to them. Sotos which area do you now reside in ?


This is not about just you, but your community in general. And it is not just about land, but also about human rights, freedom and democracy. There would be no casualties from any side if you accepted democracy, freedom for Cyprus and human rights for all. But you seem to think that your minority is some kind of super minority that should have rights on the expense of the majority... and that is where all problems start. And the reason you think like that is because Turkey wants you to think like that and supports your extremism. If Turkey had told you "listen, you are in fact a minority, so get some good minority rights and be happy about it and live in peace with the majority of Cypriots", then there wouldn't ever be a Cyprus problem.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Lordo » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:36 pm

so tell us again what is larnaca airport built on. and what about tc human rights in the south, tel us about them you stupid boy.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:47 pm

Lordo wrote:so tell us again what is larnaca airport built on. and what about tc human rights in the south, tel us about them you stupid boy.


Larnaca airport is build on government land, and there wouldn't even be a need for an airport in Larnaca if the Turks had not invaded, since in that case we would still be using the airport of Nicosia. As far as the human rights of the TCs in the south, those are surprisingly way too much. Enemies who occupy our lands should not be treated so nicely.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:25 am

Sotos wrote:
Lordo wrote:so tell us again what is larnaca airport built on. and what about tc human rights in the south, tel us about them you stupid boy.


Larnaca airport is build on government land, and there wouldn't even be a need for an airport in Larnaca if the Turks had not invaded, since in that case we would still be using the airport of Nicosia. As far as the human rights of the TCs in the south, those are surprisingly way too much. Enemies who occupy our lands should not be treated so nicely.

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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:43 am

Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:The only flag poll I use is the one of the Republic of Cyprus which I shove up your ass while you are crying about the isolation of your unrecognized pseudo state. Don't hope that there will be ever a recognized "Turkish State" of any kind in Cyprus. You are doomed to live in a pseudo state until the day we are ready to take back what belongs to us.



Peace be upon your unsettled soal. You are TRUELY a very angry person. I think you need to worry about a real threat which is isis and not only we will be doomed you will also be doomed. What ever anger you want to vent out you need to harvest it and think intellectually. Not is the time or place for your threatening behaviour but a time to think and act rationally so that will make the whole of cyprus strong. I don't cry or scare from human threat from a forum member. What scares me are those brainwashed Isis who TRUELY believe we are all infidels and by killing us they will go to heaven. Do you believe that if you killed every TC that you would go to heaven. Is that the teachings of your faith ? No it's not and I don't think your brainwashed or if any extremist faith so stop your childish unfounded threats.


Turkey is the real threat for Cyprus. It is Turkey which is occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops and ethnically cleansed 200.000 Cypriots... not ISIS. ISIS are small potatoes compared to Turkey... stop trying to divert the real issue here. If you want peace then you have to give back what belongs to us. You are welcomed as equal Cypriot citizens and as a Cypriot minority... but there will be no peace where you gain on our expense. And if you think it is OK for you to support "solutions" based on our ethnic cleansing then I am also entitled to support the same kind of solutions but on your expense.



Sotos . I feel a bit insulted by your one sided opinion. As a cypriot myself my relatives were also masacred by some of your people who are cypriot so we have a lot to loose in this deal but we have to move on. The expense of a human life has no value and nothing can bring a dead person back to life. When I say we have a lot to loose I am referring to we are willing to take a risk to live together again. Sotos I don't have any land that belongs to you as one of my parents is from afanya and the other is from lurugina and their land belongs to them. Sotos which area do you now reside in ?


Mustie,

A quiet word of advice.

Don't use this forum to gauge the true sentiments of real Cypriots. There are only a few contributors here, and we have a couple dickheads so this forum is not a true representation or accurate in the slightest.

GCs and TCs can live together. The proof is in the pudding. Thousands of TCs cross everyday and even work on the GC side.

Cypriots have literally had enough. You're welcome in my house anytime. Some of the GCs here will never be invited into my shit house, and there are some TCs too who are simply not worth it. Some people who just want to cause trouble come to forums like this one.

My advice to you is to stick close to your Cypriot/Choirokitian patriots because we will look after you and treat the rest like Sotos, Lordo, Kurupetos, GIG et al with the contempt they deserve.

Stay cool brother and be good.
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Re: ANY SOLUTION MUST INVOLVE GUARANTOR IN CASE OF A NEW EOK

Postby Sotos » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:
Sotos wrote:The only flag poll I use is the one of the Republic of Cyprus which I shove up your ass while you are crying about the isolation of your unrecognized pseudo state. Don't hope that there will be ever a recognized "Turkish State" of any kind in Cyprus. You are doomed to live in a pseudo state until the day we are ready to take back what belongs to us.



Peace be upon your unsettled soal. You are TRUELY a very angry person. I think you need to worry about a real threat which is isis and not only we will be doomed you will also be doomed. What ever anger you want to vent out you need to harvest it and think intellectually. Not is the time or place for your threatening behaviour but a time to think and act rationally so that will make the whole of cyprus strong. I don't cry or scare from human threat from a forum member. What scares me are those brainwashed Isis who TRUELY believe we are all infidels and by killing us they will go to heaven. Do you believe that if you killed every TC that you would go to heaven. Is that the teachings of your faith ? No it's not and I don't think your brainwashed or if any extremist faith so stop your childish unfounded threats.


Turkey is the real threat for Cyprus. It is Turkey which is occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops and ethnically cleansed 200.000 Cypriots... not ISIS. ISIS are small potatoes compared to Turkey... stop trying to divert the real issue here. If you want peace then you have to give back what belongs to us. You are welcomed as equal Cypriot citizens and as a Cypriot minority... but there will be no peace where you gain on our expense. And if you think it is OK for you to support "solutions" based on our ethnic cleansing then I am also entitled to support the same kind of solutions but on your expense.



Sotos . I feel a bit insulted by your one sided opinion. As a cypriot myself my relatives were also masacred by some of your people who are cypriot so we have a lot to loose in this deal but we have to move on. The expense of a human life has no value and nothing can bring a dead person back to life. When I say we have a lot to loose I am referring to we are willing to take a risk to live together again. Sotos I don't have any land that belongs to you as one of my parents is from afanya and the other is from lurugina and their land belongs to them. Sotos which area do you now reside in ?


Mustie,

A quiet word of advice.

Don't use this forum to gauge the true sentiments of real Cypriots. There are only a few contributors here, and we have a couple dickheads so this forum is not a true representation or accurate in the slightest.

GCs and TCs can live together. The proof is in the pudding. Thousands of TCs cross everyday and even work on the GC side.

Cypriots have literally had enough. You're welcome in my house anytime. Some of the GCs here will never be invited into my shit house, and there are some TCs too who are simply not worth it. Some people who just want to cause trouble come to forums like this one.

My advice to you is to stick close to your Cypriot/Choirokitian patriots because we will look after you and treat the rest like Sotos, Lordo, Kurupetos, GIG et al with the contempt they deserve.

Stay cool brother and be good.


Why would anybody want to be invited to your shit house? :roll: And how is your house exactly? Small, circular, with a hole in the middle? :lol:
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