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Should the NATO question be discussed as part of a comprehensive solution?

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Total votes : 11

Re: NATO is evolving

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:34 pm

....but as odd as it may sound makarios really tried to play both sides. blame the AKEL idiots and their 45 percent. Russia/soviets should be blamed for the invasion more then the US and Nato.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:42 pm

...and to this day, Cyprus represents a gateway, because it is Cypriot, at least the possibility of social-exchange between what are adversaries.

In my mind, if NATO is evolving, Russia may well be the essential partner it lacks.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:33 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...and to this day, Cyprus represents a gateway, because it is Cypriot, at least the possibility of social-exchange between what are adversaries.

In my mind, if NATO is evolving, Russia may well be the essential partner it lacks.


Back in the day of the Cold War, neither side was interested in having a 'gateway'.

The Soviets were behind their Iron Curtain, and the Americans and NATO allies were building their defenses against a possible Soviet Invasion which would be unprecedented in scale. NATO was literally up against it. The Russians had far superior land forces. 12000 tanks V 4000 for NATO. The same ratio applied with artillery, mechanized and infantry. The odds only favoured NATO in the Air and at Sea where it held the upper hand.

You were either with them or against them and the stakes were high. NATO genuinely feared a large scale invasion. Probably would have led to a Nuclear Holocaust around the world which is probably why the Soviets did not move but there was an arms race and a huge build up of Nuclear Weapons everywhere - Europe, Asia Pacific, Asia and Canada.

Both sides were in it till the end and Cyprus made itself a huge obstacle in NATO's Southern Flank which included Greece and Turkey, both NATO allies. Both countries picked their side wisely, but sadly Cyprus was still at the station when the train left.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby Lordo » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:41 am

cyprus serves only one purpose these days. trodos mountains can listen to all the arabs terggy and north africa. it is very important to the americans and nato. the yanks dont need cyprus in nato for that. they already got it from the brits. in anycase even if the amercans said yes the treggs have got the veto. so there you were thinking you have terggy by the short and curleys against eu and she had you by the short curley againsy nato all along.

there is only one waf forward. terggish guarantee stays, gas pipeline goes through terggy into eu and everybody benefits and everybody is happy and we shall have peace. no need to join nato at all.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:33 am

That's nonsense!

AUSCANNZUSUK has many bases in Asia and yet Singapore, Malaysia, Japan etc are vitally important.

NATO would never say NO to Cyprus. The mere fact that Paphos will be open to them is reason enough. You can't fit a 100 or more jets in Akrotiri alone.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:05 am

Paphitis wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...and to this day, Cyprus represents a gateway, because it is Cypriot, at least the possibility of social-exchange between what are adversaries.

In my mind, if NATO is evolving, Russia may well be the essential partner it lacks.


Back in the day of the Cold War, neither side was interested in having a 'gateway'.

The Soviets were behind their Iron Curtain, and the Americans and NATO allies were building their defenses against a possible Soviet Invasion which would be unprecedented in scale. NATO was literally up against it. The Russians had far superior land forces. 12000 tanks V 4000 for NATO. The same ratio applied with artillery, mechanized and infantry. The odds only favoured NATO in the Air and at Sea where it held the upper hand.

You were either with them or against them and the stakes were high. NATO genuinely feared a large scale invasion. Probably would have led to a Nuclear Holocaust around the world which is probably why the Soviets did not move but there was an arms race and a huge build up of Nuclear Weapons everywhere - Europe, Asia Pacific, Asia and Canada.

Both sides were in it till the end and Cyprus made itself a huge obstacle in NATO's Southern Flank which included Greece and Turkey, both NATO allies. Both countries picked their side wisely, but sadly Cyprus was still at the station when the train left.


...exactly my point.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby Lordo » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:16 am

Paphitis wrote:That's nonsense!

AUSCANNZUSUK has many bases in Asia and yet Singapore, Malaysia, Japan etc are vitally important.

NATO would never say NO to Cyprus. The mere fact that Paphos will be open to them is reason enough. You can't fit a 100 or more jets in Akrotiri alone.

they already have akrotiri are you taking drugs again.
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Re: NATO is evolving

Postby tsukoui » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:48 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Alphabet

I'm voting no because we don't want to be calculating every letter :roll:
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