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Re: The Power of the Internet

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:48 pm

Nikitas wrote:The responsibility of the journalists who put him on public display is also an issue.

Having some inside knowledge about the Greek media I would venture that his story was deemed OK for its emotional impact and who gives a stuff about facts. Seen it before, especially in "ecological" stories. Ecology is the new marxist narrative in Greece and it attracts a huge amount of bullshit journalism.

Just watch SKAI news' two famous blondes doing the "over to you Jeff" act on econews. It's hilarious.

For bullshit journalism to survive there must be an uncritical public and incompetent (or colluding) editors and lack of fact checkers. The education system with its emphasis on parroting and the cultivation of "apopsi" as opposed to "gnosi" helps. The antipathy for professional assessment (axiologisi) in public broadcasting covers the second bit. Fact checkers are an unknown profession here. The cocktail recipe is complete.

A quick glance at the rehirings of ERT personnel recently and the cringing quality of the political interviews shown lately will confirm the above.

We need an overhaul, fast.


Is there an overhaul of minds? O kalamaras en allassei mana mou...
4 million in Athens and another 2 in Salonica all public servants, doing nothing producing nothing, over a population of 12 million.
What I cannot comprehend is how come such a generally very clever people can go so wrong in everything. :roll:
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Re: The Power of the Internet

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:52 pm

Nikitas wrote:The responsibility of the journalists who put him on public display is also an issue.

Having some inside knowledge about the Greek media I would venture that his story was deemed OK for its emotional impact and who gives a stuff about facts. Seen it before, especially in "ecological" stories. Ecology is the new marxist narrative in Greece and it attracts a huge amount of bullshit journalism.

Just watch SKAI news' two famous blondes doing the "over to you Jeff" act on econews. It's hilarious.

For bullshit journalism to survive there must be an uncritical public and incompetent (or colluding) editors and lack of fact checkers. The education system with its emphasis on parroting and the cultivation of "apopsi" as opposed to "gnosi" helps. The antipathy for professional assessment (axiologisi) in public broadcasting covers the second bit. Fact checkers are an unknown profession here. The cocktail recipe is complete.

A quick glance at the rehirings of ERT personnel recently and the cringing quality of the political interviews shown lately will confirm the above.

We need an overhaul, fast.


Greek TV is always good for a laugh, especially political interviews.
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Re: The Power of the Internet

Postby Nikitas » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:14 pm

"What I cannot comprehend is how come such a generally very clever people can go so wrong in everything."

I am equally perplexed and I am half kalamaras and living here for 40 years. I have seen a few things that might be indicative.

The education system ranks facts and practical solutions low. The result is a population with "apopsi" on everything and practical competence on very little.

A general conviction is that all problems are political, nothing is technical needing technocratic not political handling.

Since the fall of the junta there has been a widespread dominance of leftist culture, and a devaluation of traditional values. Political correctness rules to the point of disgust. The result is a general sense of decadence and a free for all as long as it can be verbalised in the politically correct terms.

And there is that schizoid state of damning big businessmen and shipowers as devils yet everyone would love to be one. The day they accept that making a profit legally is morally OK, will be the turning point.
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Re: The Power of the Internet

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:57 pm

Indeed mate... You cannot expect anything good from a system runned by homos, perverts and atheists. :x
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Re: The Power of the Internet

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:49 am

The real con-men that are a major worry are the countless psychos that fool the British authorities and kill hundreds of patients before they are found out to be mentally unstable or unqualified etc.

This is a rare/unique case (and indeed, we don't know that GR! is correct - he's been accused of being a psycho too :P ) and yet we make a meal of it.
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