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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Robinjoeh » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:56 pm

B25 wrote:
Robinjoeh wrote:
B25 wrote:It is NOT legal to carry such items.

They would be considered as a firearm. You will get into serious trouble if stopped or even in the unlikely event you had to use it.

Unless you are involved with mafiosi type people, you should not really have a need for such an item.


Right, do you have any source on this information, or it is just your own knowledge?


Ok, i may have confused it with British law, bacause i just read this.

http://www.armbritain.com/forum/index.php?topic=1523.0

Good luck


True story, that topic is from 2011 though - maybe laws changed since then.. Who knows. :)
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:10 pm

The law is very specific, and is laid out in Section 5(1) (b) of the firearms act 1968.
This act prohibits any weapon of any description, designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other substance.

In a nutshell the law is saying that full on pepper spray, the type the UK police use that contains a noxious gas is one of those items that is considered illegal to carry and illegal to use in the UK by civilians and preppers alike.

look at what xerodjehalo and the chalruis do. they found a perfect solution. they smell just a little bit from all the bullshit that comes out of their mouths, so the deodorant and mouth spray they use which is legal to carry around must be also legal to defend yourself with. just use one of those and you will be fine.
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:38 pm

Robinjoeh wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I would just go to the nearest police station and ask.


Yes, that is a good suggestion. But it saves some time asking here first, in case someone knows.

Cap wrote:OC spray being carried by the general public in CY is virtually unheard of mate.


miltiades wrote:Absolutely Cap, no one carries such gadgets in Cyprus, one of the safest nations on earth, personal safety is almost absolute just don't discuss ...politics or ...football !!


Oh, really? I have had good usage of it in the past - but I understand it is very different in Cyprus. However, that depends on where you live. On some places (almost everywhere) there are lots of tourists, and to be honest - I have already been involved in one situation here.

Still doesn't answer my question, I asked if it's legal or not - not if people here are carrying such gadgets.

Thanks.

Mate, Cyprus is a Christian nation with social values and incidents of violence are rather rare, except in areas with a high percentage of foreigners (tourists or legal/illegal immigrants) or in the occupied areas. :wink:
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Nikitas » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:57 pm

Cyprus is in that class of nations that severely limit the right of self defence. They call this "the monopoly of violence" belonging to the state. Any instrument designed for defence is deemed an offensive weapon regardless of the actual use to which it is put.

However, survival in such situations being a matter of seconds, and the police usually being minutes away, the net result is that you are defenceless against more powerful or more numerous opponents. You must adapt.

The explosion in the numbers of certain dog breeds in Europe and the growing popularity of Schutzhundt classes is probably attributable to the above legal situation.

Political correctness condemns you bashing an attacker, if your dog does it it gets front page coverag and called a hero. The inescapable conclusion is that the dog has more rights than you. Cvilisation in the 21st century.
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:29 am

Robinjoeh wrote:Hello.

Is it legal to carry and use OC or pepper spray in emergency defense, just like it is in many other European countries?

Thanks.


Please don't!!! :roll:
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Robinjoeh » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:20 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Robinjoeh wrote:Hello.

Is it legal to carry and use OC or pepper spray in emergency defense, just like it is in many other European countries?

Thanks.


Please don't!!! :roll:


Why not? O.o
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:43 pm

Robinjoeh wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Robinjoeh wrote:Hello.

Is it legal to carry and use OC or pepper spray in emergency defense, just like it is in many other European countries?

Thanks.


Please don't!!! :roll:


Why not? O.o


Unless you can defend yourself with your own hands, then it's a matter for the police. It can kill. It's as bad (morally) as carrying around a knife or a gun.
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:03 pm

With your hands depends on your innate strength and the training you have had.

Does this also apply to rape attack victims? They can use their hands against one or more heavier stronger assailants? Any other means of self defence against rape is "morally" wrong in these cases too?

In my book a spray that stings the eyes and stops a rapist is morally very right.
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:33 pm

It's not morally wrong to defend yourself with whatever means are at your disposal - if you are under attack. However, it's a sad day when you have to consider putting a weapon in your purse before you go out of the house 'in case' of an attack. Why go out? Cyprus isn't such a place where I have ever felt vulnerable enough to need a weapon to immobilize/kill someone with - other than anxiety from Turkish attacks, but a pepper spray is not enough for them blaggards!

You're more at risk from snake bites where I tend to go, anyway. Perhaps it's morally wrong that I carry a long stick, hmm. :?
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Re: Legal questions about self defense sprays

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:40 pm

Now I have read it all.

Lady, I think you've been drinking the local tap water and are off with the fairies to be carrying capsicum spray in Cyprus. :lol:
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