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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Lordo » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:41 pm

look in the mirror first before opening your gob my ugloanglocharlui friend. see the title of the thread.


dont you worry once the tcs get their fair share then the terggs will be next. they will get their fair share too.

its only fair.
or is it fare.
fare fair which ever.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:23 pm

Our cousin, who is sooooo ugly the sheep of Louricinia insist he puts a bag over his head, is at it again.

Trying to give away the CY HCs, when he says... "the terggs will be next. they will get their fair share too. ..."

Turkey's fair share is zero ...!!!

There is already agreement that the HCs would be a federal matter, are you breaking the agreement already cuz...???
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:46 pm

Lordo wrote:nope it clearly says they can even search for resources, it is the extraction they are not allowed to do. but as the gcs have gone ahead and dug the well than surely tcs also have the right to do the same. it is not enough you stole the government of the roc now you are claiming all the resources too. dream on. without peace you shall shall have a big fat zero like my friend charlui the ugly.


Nope, what you are suggesting here is an apartheid. The TC's are living in an occupied unrecognised and illegal la la land, helping Turkey exploit Cyprus's sovereign territory.

The Gc's want their property back, an end to the occupation and the settlers shipped back to where they came from. That's fair right?

If not, stick a baboutsosiko up your big fat zero and the Turks fair share really is zero.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:58 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Our cousin, who is sooooo ugly the sheep of Louricinia insist he puts a bag over his head, is at it again.

Trying to give away the CY HCs, when he says... "the terggs will be next. they will get their fair share too. ..."

Turkey's fair share is zero ...!!!

There is already agreement that the HCs would be a federal matter, are you breaking the agreement already cuz...???


I dont understand why this TMT Taksim supporting vromokelo wants to give Cyprus's hydrocarbons to Turkey.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Lordo » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:50 pm

who is wants top give it to the tergs. they will claim it for themselves. and they have the clout to do it. you are better off getting an agreement so she has less incentive. but the way you have behaved so far she will wack you sooner or later thats for sure.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:06 pm

A Greek businessman I know listens attentively to what sales people tell him and then he gravely pronounces

"my friend, it is all a matter of calculation". Same here. If at some point this BBF thingy becomes too bothersome and the hydrocarbons more attractive, the RoC needs only to announce in the UN that it cedes territory to the trunc, cast it off and then the partition becomes official, both on land and at sea. If that happens it is goodbye hydrocarbons ad EU for either the trunc or Turkey, for obvious reasons. The calculation is also based on the price of gas and oil on the international market and the likely future trends.

Effective control of the hydrocarbons is impossible for either community, since they do not have navies and airforces, but those that are exploring do have them, and their governments will protect their rights. That is the interim solution for the GCs.

And what one can play the other can too. If messing about in the southern EEZ is OK, so is the reverse, RoC handing out exploration sheets for the northern EEZ to willing parties is always a possibility.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:32 am

...indeed, what is Sovereign, is the will of the people. They choose, and they decide, it is them that will live by its intentions. What serves Cypriots, when it is up for consideration will be for all Cypriots, without any other distinction, or discrimination. And if the deal is "Turkish", and "Greek" (read: the rest), it cannot be sustained, unless the advantages for what is the vast majority of the population, are also overwhelming.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Lordo » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:34 am

Nikitas wrote:A Greek businessman I know listens attentively to what sales people tell him and then he gravely pronounces

"my friend, it is all a matter of calculation". Same here. If at some point this BBF thingy becomes too bothersome and the hydrocarbons more attractive, the RoC needs only to announce in the UN that it cedes territory to the trunc, cast it off and then the partition becomes official, both on land and at sea. If that happens it is goodbye hydrocarbons ad EU for either the trunc or Turkey, for obvious reasons. The calculation is also based on the price of gas and oil on the international market and the likely future trends.

Effective control of the hydrocarbons is impossible for either community, since they do not have navies and airforces, but those that are exploring do have them, and their governments will protect their rights. That is the interim solution for the GCs.

And what one can play the other can too. If messing about in the southern EEZ is OK, so is the reverse, RoC handing out exploration sheets for the northern EEZ to willing parties is always a possibility.

you want your cake and eat it nikitas. you dont want confederation for the tcs but you want to have it for the gcs. interesting thinking.

i am afraid bbf is not that easy. you will not be able to cede without the consent of the tcs. and visa versa. that is federation. one country one identity. you boys have learnt nothing since 1955. in 1960 you signed an agreement to become an independent but wanted to have the choice any time you wish to disolve the republic and give it to greace. you people are incredibly simple whenit comes to politics. you aint even out of the cave yet. we live in hope,
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Nikitas » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:22 am

First point is that the RoC declared from the very start, with no prompting from anyone, that the benefits of the hydrocarbons would be equitably allocated to all Cypriots, specifically mentioning the TC community. So there is no unilateral usurpation of what now are common resources.

Second point re partition made in my post above. It concerned the current situation where Turkey, in the name of the TCs, is acting tough in the Cyprus EEZ and failing a solution the RoC decides to free itself from the burden. It is a hypothesis.

Post solution, if we get to this BBF thing, there will be another type of problem, which will divide the TC community: whether to include the "motherlands" in the hydrocarbon bonanza or not. The GCs have already shown that they do not involve Greece. If the TCs have half a brain they will insist on the same treatment for Turkey. The moment you include Turkey, Greece will want equal treatment and then we have a problem, actually two problems.
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Re: is economic zone sovereign territory

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:15 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Our cousin, who is sooooo ugly the sheep of Louricinia insist he puts a bag over his head, is at it again.

Trying to give away the CY HCs, when he says... "the terggs will be next. they will get their fair share too. ..."

Turkey's fair share is zero ...!!!

There is already agreement that the HCs would be a federal matter, are you breaking the agreement already cuz...???


only a man ugly enough who suffered such a fate could come up with these thoughts. my dear poor ugliest of ugly uglocharlui. i really feel sorry for you. fancy being that ugly. i mean where the hell was goawd when they were dishing out ugly to children when you was born.
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