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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
erolz66 wrote:The phrase is often mistaken as scriptural, but it appears nowhere in the Bible....

Good luck trying to catch me out Erol… you’re gonna have to double what you’ve got upstairs. :)

Let's face it he's probably got double at least of what you've got downstairs .......... Sorry a greek Frau told me :oops:

I doubt he'll appreciate being likened to a donkey. :?



That explains why you need to stick knitwear up people's arses.
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:26 am

Get Real! wrote: It's just a general purpose philosophical value with no relation to Christianity.


Indeed.
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby Sotos » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:56 am

Συν Αθηνά και χείρα κίνει (God helps them that help themselves)

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Greek_proverbs

http://lexilogia.gr/forum/showthread.ph ... themselves

A wealthy Athenian was making a sea voyage with some companions. A terrible storm blew up and the ship capsized. All the other passengers started to swim, but the Athenian kept praying to Athena, making all kinds of promises if only she would save him. Then one of the other shipwrecked passengers swam past him and said, 'While you pray to Athena, start moving your arms!'


the original:

Ανήρ πλούσιος Αθηναίος μεθ ετέρων τινών έπλει.
Και δη χειμώνος σφοδρού γενομένου η ναυς περιετράπη.
Ο δε Αθηναίος την Αθηνά επικαλούμενος μύρια επηγγέλετο, ει περισωθείη.
Εις δε τις των συννεναυαγηκότων έφη προς αυτόν.
"Συν Αθηνά και συ χείρα κινεί"
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby Jerry » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:47 pm

Back on topic it seems that the EU are, by their arse crawling, endorsing Turkey's illegal grip on north Cyprus and caving in to the Sultan's demands.

A top EU executive has promised Turkey as part of its accession talks to start in the first quarter of 2016 the process required to open the five chapters blocked by Greek Cyprus, the Hürriyet daily said on Monday.
According to the Hürriyet report, the assurance was expressed in a letter sent by European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker to Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu.
The daily said, based on Turkish and EU diplomatic sources, that Juncker's letter is considered a supplement to the joint declaration made following the Turkey-EU summit on Nov. 29.
The five chapters that the EU plans to open in negotiations with Turkey are reportedly Chapter 15: Energy; Chapter 23: Judiciary and fundamental rights; Chapter 24: Justice, freedoms and security; Chapter 26: Education and culture; and Chapter 31: Foreign, security and defense policy.

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_eu ... 06349.html

Chapters 23 and 24 must surely be a joke. :lol:
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:59 pm

erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:GR! didn't say it was in the Bible.


He referred to it as a Christian value.


No, he didn't lying twister. Find the quote!

erolz66 wrote:It's a Christian value that has no expression within the bible. I guess you can claim than any number of proverbs are Christian values as suits. How does 'beware Greeks bearing gifts' sound ? That also has no expression within the bible. Christian value maybe ?


Claim what you like. The rest of this rubbish extrapolation is your own - you-yourself making up straw man stories and then rubbishing your own creations. As usual. :roll:
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby cypriotnado » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:45 am

Jerry wrote:Back on topic it seems that the EU are, by their arse crawling, endorsing Turkey's illegal grip on north Cyprus and caving in to the Sultan's demands.

A top EU executive has promised Turkey as part of its accession talks to start in the first quarter of 2016 the process required to open the five chapters blocked by Greek Cyprus, the Hürriyet daily said on Monday.
According to the Hürriyet report, the assurance was expressed in a letter sent by European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker to Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu.
The daily said, based on Turkish and EU diplomatic sources, that Juncker's letter is considered a supplement to the joint declaration made following the Turkey-EU summit on Nov. 29.
The five chapters that the EU plans to open in negotiations with Turkey are reportedly Chapter 15: Energy; Chapter 23: Judiciary and fundamental rights; Chapter 24: Justice, freedoms and security; Chapter 26: Education and culture; and Chapter 31: Foreign, security and defense policy.

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_eu ... 06349.html

Chapters 23 and 24 must surely be a joke. :lol:


Actually the opening of those chapters would make sense. As the chapters are abt enabling and compelling them in meeting those standards so the Turks would need to implement huge changes ie legislation, human rights, press freedom etc in order to do so. That would not be a bad thing.
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Re: Why can't even the eu apply pressure for Turkey to withd

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:12 pm

...it is likely why Cyprus did not impede the process for this agreement, while her protests were also noted. I think Cyprus did Turkey a favor by objecting to the specific chapters being publicised, however, Turkey insisted; a small victory. The onus is on Turkey now to show specific progress on the specific issues.
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