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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:30 am

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Robin Hood wrote:Instead of following the war mongering lead of the US' Imperial dream of an American Century, maybe the western nations should listen the Russians?

US rejects Russia's proposal to end the Syrian conflict AGAIN .......... Russia put a similar proposal forward in 2012 and the Yanks rejected that one too!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-rejects-russias-syrian-peace-proposal/5488670


Russia is going to have to listen before it's too late. They will eventually lose the war in Syria and when that happens they can kiss their bases Goodbye because we will never let them back in.

If however they decide to get sensible, we will allow Russia the preservation of its strategic assets. If you think that the Russian Military is any kind of comprehensive threat against NATO then you're deluded!

It will either be done the easy way or the hard way. The hard way is going to be a very bitter pill for Pootin to swallow.


I think you will end up having to eat your words! :roll:

Your magnificent coalition has been bombing for over a year ..... Putin has been doing it for less than a month and has made inroads your coalition could only dream of. Russia has proposed a plan to resolve the conflict ..... your American friends have rejected it because it does not satisfy their intent of regime change .... which is not only illegal but is what their objective has been since before ISIS even raised its head, in fact was planned by the US as far back as 2010 or even earlier.

The ones left with egg or their faces will be the US as they try to recover at least some credibility out of the fiasco they have created.


Russia has only dropped about 10 bombs on DAESH. It might even be less.

Our coalition has dropped thousands of tons over the last 2 years. For 2 years we had stemmed their progress. They only began to advance since Russia began to attack the enemies of DAESH.

As of late however, DAESH are in dissaray both in Syria and Iraq and that has nothing to do with the Russians!

You are just swallowing the Sprutnik propaganda. The coalition are not interested in having their jets on the front page and that should tell you something right there.

I doubt I will have to eat my words. If you think the Russian bombings will be effective against the FSA then you're in for a rude shock now that the USA and other countries are supplying them. The FSA will end up in Latakia.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:08 am

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Russia has only dropped about 10 bombs on DAESH. It might even be less.


Really? You honestly believe that?

Our coalition has dropped thousands of tons over the last 2 years. For 2 years we had stemmed their progress. They only began to advance since Russia began to attack the enemies of DAESH.


But they still progressed. Now the Russians are involved the trend of 'progression' is being reversed.

As of late however, DAESH are in dissaray both in Syria and Iraq and that has nothing to do with the Russians!


Strange that! Your coalition drops thousands of tons of bombs and achieve little or nothing to boast about. Yet the Russians join the fray, drop ten bombs and DAESH are in disarray in Syria as well as Iraq and it has nothing to do with the Russians? Are you really serious?

You are just swallowing the Sprutnik propaganda. The coalition are not interested in having their jets on the front page and that should tell you something right there.


Never watch Sputnick. Most of the free and independent news web sites present a very different picture to the one you offer. The reason the coalition are not on the front page, except when they bomb hospitals, is because they have nothing to show for their efforts. Russia has achieved something ..... like progress against terrorists ..... all of them!

I doubt I will have to eat my words. If you think the Russian bombings will be effective against the FSA then you're in for a rude shock now that the USA and other countries are supplying them. The FSA will end up in Latakia.


Are you aware that FSA represents about 2% of the terrorists opposing Assad? The rest are Islamic Extremist organisations and the US is supply them with weapons to fight another proxy war .... not to destroy DAESH but to get rid of Assad!

The FSA will take Latakia ..... yeah, sure the Russians are quaking in their boots. Assad has offered the FSA fighters an amnesty providing they have not committed war crimes, it is their way out of a situation they can never resolve themselves. Like you they backed the wrong horse by trying to get rid of Assad by force.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:56 am

Paphitis:
Russia has only dropped about 10 bombs on DAESH. It might even be less.


Robin Hood wrote:Really? You honestly believe that?


Yes I do and I base my assessment on official briefs released by the DoD.

Our coalition has dropped thousands of tons over the last 2 years. For 2 years we had stemmed their progress. They only began to advance since Russia began to attack the enemies of DAESH.


Robin Hood wrote:But they still progressed. Now the Russians are involved the trend of 'progression' is being reversed.


No they didn't! Not until Pootin began to bomb the FSA which was fighting DAESH and preventing further expansion to the West of Syria. DAESH have been in decline for many months now, especially in Iraq.

As of late however, DAESH are in dissaray both in Syria and Iraq and that has nothing to do with the Russians!


Robin Hood wrote:Strange that! Your coalition drops thousands of tons of bombs and achieve little or nothing to boast about. Yet the Russians join the fray, drop ten bombs and DAESH are in disarray in Syria as well as Iraq and it has nothing to do with the Russians? Are you really serious?


They achieved a lot and DAESH was on the back foot for a long time, which explains all the last ditch terrorism and desperation.

No DAESH were never in dissaray from any Russian intervention. The Russian Intervention has helped DAESH expand their territory because Russia has been targeting groups who are fighting DAESH and hardly targeting DAESH at all. Only the coalition have been bombing DAESH and you know this very well so stop pretending!

You are just swallowing the Sprutnik propaganda. The coalition are not interested in having their jets on the front page and that should tell you something right there.


Robin Hood wrote:Never watch Sputnick. Most of the free and independent news web sites present a very different picture to the one you offer. The reason the coalition are not on the front page, except when they bomb hospitals, is because they have nothing to show for their efforts. Russia has achieved something ..... like progress against terrorists ..... all of them!


I would like to know where you are getting your information from!

The Coalition has been offering the harsh realities of its Air Campaign and has been saying all along that it will take time and that the approach is long term involving the reconstructing, organization and training of the ISF and Peshmerga.

You are offering bullshit. :roll:

I doubt I will have to eat my words. If you think the Russian bombings will be effective against the FSA then you're in for a rude shock now that the USA and other countries are supplying them. The FSA will end up in Latakia.


Robin Hood wrote:Are you aware that FSA represents about 2% of the terrorists opposing Assad? The rest are Islamic Extremist organisations and the US is supply them with weapons to fight another proxy war .... not to destroy DAESH but to get rid of Assad!


I am aware that the FSA is one of about 50 organized groups, and that some are even affiliated to Al Qaeda.

I am also aware that those aligned to the FSA have formed a United Coalition and they are being sponsored by the West and are being armed.

Robin Hood wrote:The FSA will take Latakia ..... yeah, sure the Russians are quaking in their boots. Assad has offered the FSA fighters an amnesty providing they have not committed war crimes, it is their way out of a situation they can never resolve themselves. Like you they backed the wrong horse by trying to get rid of Assad by force.


You are very naive to believe Russia has nothing to lose.

We have the power to make this war go on for 20 years and this could be their Afghanistan 2. We will make sure of it just like we did with the Mujahideen. We have a score to settle so we thank Pootin for the opportunity.

I make no apologies about my hatred for Pootin. Problem is, we do not believe Pootin is that stupid and is looking for an exit strategy which will result in no loss of face. We think he is going to serve us up with Assad on a silver platter. And he is going to do it in order to protect and preserve his interests in Syria.

Pootin is a nasty piece of work! Real nasty! The kind who will be wheeling and dealing with the USA as we speak.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:33 pm

Paphitis:
I would like to know where you are getting your information from!

A pointless exercise! Your views are as extreme as those expounded by extremists of ISIS/Al Qaida/Al Nusra etc. except your boot is on the other foot. But believe me ..... extreme views they are.

I will say to you that I only consider web sites as credible if the information is independent and provided without editorial intervention/control and that what I am reading is backed by some plausible links to official documents or sources that, as far as can be determined, are reliable. I then come to my own considered opinion. I am content to be corrected when it is confirmed with some evidence that my formed opinion is incorrect.

You have so far failed to convince me that your rhetoric is credible! :|
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:31 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I would like to know where you are getting your information from!

A pointless exercise! Your views are as extreme as those expounded by extremists of ISIS/Al Qaida/Al Nusra etc. except your boot is on the other foot. But believe me ..... extreme views they are.

I will say to you that I only consider web sites as credible if the information is independent and provided without editorial intervention/control and that what I am reading is backed by some plausible links to official documents or sources that, as far as can be determined, are reliable. I then come to my own considered opinion. I am content to be corrected when it is confirmed with some evidence that my formed opinion is incorrect.

You have so far failed to convince me that your rhetoric is credible! :|


I will also say to you that independent sources are unqualified opinions and some slant towards a particular agenda. Much of it is hearsay and misleading.

Whereas official sources from the DoD are to the point and always provide a very brief run down of any offensive, enemy positions and which areas were lost or liberated. There is no political assessment, just factual information of what is happening on the ground.

This is the only way of seeing what progress is being made, not some opinion piece in an editorial from the Guardian which are looking for any opportunity to sensationalize!

If you want to be fair dinkum, you would read the boring official stuff, not the editorial entertainment pieces that tell you what you would like to hear with your views as they are.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:50 am

Australia’s constant attempts to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong (in the ME) is noted and punished.

Comrade Putin, the global leader has no respect for daft irrelevant koalas! :lol:

Australia excluded from Syria peace talks after Russian objection
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... -objection

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Australia’s constant attempts to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong (in the ME) is noted and punished.

Comrade Putin, the global leader has no respect for daft irrelevant koalas! :lol:

Australia excluded from Syria peace talks after Russian objection
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... -objection

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Australia were just acting as Cameron's puppets since the British public voted against the UK joining in with the bombings. Seems now that Cameron has been charmed by Putin....

But David Cameron and Barack Obama are said to be willing to co-operate with Mr Putin after Friday's horrific massacre in Paris by ISIS militants.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:Australia’s constant attempts to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong (in the ME) is noted and punished.

Comrade Putin, the global leader has no respect for daft irrelevant koalas! :lol:

Australia excluded from Syria peace talks after Russian objection
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... -objection

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh you got to laugh don't you?

Our F-18s don't seem to have any issue and are flying daily through Syrian Airspace.

Australia's participation is guaranteed through the USA. We have permanent liaisons in the Pentagon so don't worry about that. Australia is well represented and has the largest Command and Control capability after USA. We pretty much have an Aircraft Carrier in your neighborhood capable of taking F-35 and British Harrier Jets.

Russia got sweet stuff all!

I mean seriously! Japan and Australia being told by Pootin. Do you know how funny that is?
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:55 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Australia’s constant attempts to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong (in the ME) is noted and punished.

Comrade Putin, the global leader has no respect for daft irrelevant koalas! :lol:

Australia excluded from Syria peace talks after Russian objection
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... -objection

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Australia were just acting as Cameron's puppets since the British public voted against the UK joining in with the bombings. Seems now that Cameron has been charmed by Putin....

But David Cameron and Barack Obama are said to be willing to co-operate with Mr Putin after Friday's horrific massacre in Paris by ISIS militants.
Express.co.uk


The RAF have joined the bombings a long time ago in Iraq and will soon be joining the French, Americans, Australians, and Jordanians in Syria.

Cameron has not authorized strikes into Syria because of legality concerns. The Coalition has permission from the Iraqi Government to be in Iraq, but we wouldn't even ask Assad because we do not recognize him as the dejure legal Government of the Syrian Republic representing the Syrian People.

But now, after France we will be welcoming the RAF too. They can use Australia's Command and Control. It's state of the art and superior to Britains. HMAS Canberra is a friggin floating city and we got our Wedgetails too. Bloody Brits need to be looked after by the colonials. Defend mummies dignity!
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby DT. » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Australia’s constant attempts to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong (in the ME) is noted and punished.

Comrade Putin, the global leader has no respect for daft irrelevant koalas! :lol:

Australia excluded from Syria peace talks after Russian objection
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... -objection

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh you got to laugh don't you?

Our F-18s don't seem to have any issue and are flying daily through Syrian Airspace.

Australia's participation is guaranteed through the USA. We have permanent liaisons in the Pentagon so don't worry about that. Australia is well represented and has the largest Command and Control capability after USA. We pretty much have an Aircraft Carrier in your neighborhood capable of taking F-35 and British Harrier Jets.

Russia got sweet stuff all!

I mean seriously! Japan and Australia being told by Pootin. Do you know how funny that is?


Erm...Paphiti, its not that funny. The Americans agreed with the Russians and froze the australians out of the talks. And what does
"we pretty much have an aircraft carrier there" mean?
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