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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:08 pm

If the following report is true, then the Russians are taking some serious action against Daesh, and I will drink to that.

Russia has released footage which shows its fighter jets targeting oil trucks and a refinery in Syria as it aims to cut off ISIS's biggest source of income.
Moscow announced last night that its warplanes are hunting ISIS oil tanker trucks in Syria, a day after admitting a 'terrorist attack' brought down a Russian passenger jet over Egypt last month, killing all 224 people on board.

Those deaths and the shootings and suicide bombings in Paris on Friday which killed 129 people were claimed by ISIS, and in retaliation joint Russian and French raids have struck arms depots, barracks and other areas in Raqqa city, the jihadists' stronghold in northern Syria.

Russia announced yesterday that its air force has so far destroyed around 500 fuel trucks in the past few days as they transport oil from Syria to refineries in Iraq in what is a key part of ISIS financing.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Syria.html
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby DrCyprus » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:36 pm

I wish I was an expert in finding the locations of oil trucks. It would have been great fun to do this job.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby DT. » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:15 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote::? oh dear...touched a nerve!

One word mate....EU Head of State. I think you'll find in the worlds protocol list we outrank you anywhere. Us and our partners who meet up on a regular basis do however think Australia has a role to play in preserving the environment. Especially the work you guys need to do for the Great Barrier Reef. Other than that, the EU will let you know if we need you for anything else. If you're lucky the message might be given by the Presidents of the Republic's undersecretary.

Let me show you how this works. You guys are currently being visited by Prince Charles. (your country does belong to him after all)

http://www.ibtimes.com/prince-charles-p ... nd-2178996

While we get the UK foreign Secretary Hammond on an official visit

http://www.sigmalive.com/en/news/politi ... -on-agenda

See the difference Paphiti? You're a ceremonial holiday place while we have work to do with our EU and US partners here in the region.


No nerves touched mate.

No one particularly cares about the EU Presidency mate. It's just a figurehead and if you really think it is that important, well then Australia has a regular stint on the UN Security Council mate, and is also invited to attend ALL NATO summits as an Associate Member mate even though its not an official member of NATO it is still expected that Australia will respond to any European Defence Requirements should they arise in the future. Australia is also one of China's closest friends mate, with regular Heads of State meetings on a yearly basis mate.

So no worries, you think whatever you want but Australia is a 2 Trillion Dollar economy and has the highest GDP in the world, but if you think either Cyprus and Greece has any influence or anything remotely close enough to Australia, which is a G20 economy, then good luck to you mate.

The shit you guys are smoking in Cyprus must be potent stuff is all I got say.

And no mate, when you refer to Royalty in the Australian Context you are actually referring to the Australian Crown. Australia does not belong to him at all.

Australia has closer relations with USA than Britain these days.


AUstralia has the highest what? Look again mate. Australia barely scrapes fourteenth. The EU is 1st.

Oh and you don't have a 2 trillion dollar economy. Its 1.4 and the EU is 18 tr

As for the AUstralian crown, hate to tell you this but your sovereign is the Queen of England. The only australian crown out there is a coin you chaps once had.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:13 pm

It seems it is not only the Russians who are targeting Daesh’s oil trade. The more the merrier.

On Monday, US jets attacked hundreds of oil smuggling trucks in Deir Ezzor that Isil had been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing. American officials said that 116 trucks were destroyed.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Raqqa.html
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:16 pm

I was wondering why the coalition hadn’t been striking these tankers before.

Although the US-led coalition has often bombed oil production sites, it had previously refrained from striking the tankers due to internal disputes over whether their drivers should be classed as civilians.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Raqqa.html
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:24 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It seems it is not only the Russians who are targeting Daesh’s oil trade. The more the merrier.

On Monday, US jets attacked hundreds of oil smuggling trucks in Deir Ezzor that Isil had been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing. American officials said that 116 trucks were destroyed.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Raqqa.html

France doesn’t have the satellite tech or drones in the ME to gather intelligence so as to acquire specific coordinates to bomb, so they’ll have to rely on either the US or Russia if and when they decide.

Meanwhile Russia presses on…

http://www.euronews.com/2015/11/19/oil- ... -it-hurts/
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:27 pm

With reference to the thesis that the Baath Party is behind Daesh, and perhaps any Arabic readers out there might be able to confirm this, the following:

http://www.albasrah.net/pages/mod.php?h ... 2015-11-19

is, according to the web site Daesh Daily, “a cross-reference to the official website of the Iraqi Baath Party, which helps to make our point. It claims all Daesh operations against Iraqi forces as its own.”

http://www.daeshdaily.com/
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:39 am

Tim Drayton wrote:October 31 - Daesh brings down a Russian plane killing 224 innocent people,
November 13 - Daesh stages an attack on Paris killing 129 innocent people,
to say nothing of the inhuman atrocities committed by Daesh on a daily basis against the inhabitants of the territory it occupies.

I say enough of this bickering, and it is time for all parties who have an interest in ending this scourge, and that includes Russia and the West, to unite for the common and limited purpose of taking out Daesh, after which they can resume their other disputes.


It looks like my wish may be coming true. The United Nations Security Council has unanimously adopted a resolution in support of the fight against Daesh.

The resolution “calls upon member states that have the capacity to do so to take all necessary measures ... on the territory under the control of ISIL ... in Syria and Iraq.”

IS “constitutes a global and unprecedented threat to international peace and security,” the resolution says.


https://www.rt.com/news/322931-un-resol ... rism-isis/

It would appear that Daesh has got too cocky and the genocidal gang has now signed its own death warrant. All action taken to defeat them is now sanctioned by international law.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:54 am

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote::? oh dear...touched a nerve!

One word mate....EU Head of State. I think you'll find in the worlds protocol list we outrank you anywhere. Us and our partners who meet up on a regular basis do however think Australia has a role to play in preserving the environment. Especially the work you guys need to do for the Great Barrier Reef. Other than that, the EU will let you know if we need you for anything else. If you're lucky the message might be given by the Presidents of the Republic's undersecretary.

Let me show you how this works. You guys are currently being visited by Prince Charles. (your country does belong to him after all)

http://www.ibtimes.com/prince-charles-p ... nd-2178996

While we get the UK foreign Secretary Hammond on an official visit

http://www.sigmalive.com/en/news/politi ... -on-agenda

See the difference Paphiti? You're a ceremonial holiday place while we have work to do with our EU and US partners here in the region.


No nerves touched mate.

No one particularly cares about the EU Presidency mate. It's just a figurehead and if you really think it is that important, well then Australia has a regular stint on the UN Security Council mate, and is also invited to attend ALL NATO summits as an Associate Member mate even though its not an official member of NATO it is still expected that Australia will respond to any European Defence Requirements should they arise in the future. Australia is also one of China's closest friends mate, with regular Heads of State meetings on a yearly basis mate.

So no worries, you think whatever you want but Australia is a 2 Trillion Dollar economy and has the highest GDP in the world, but if you think either Cyprus and Greece has any influence or anything remotely close enough to Australia, which is a G20 economy, then good luck to you mate.

The shit you guys are smoking in Cyprus must be potent stuff is all I got say.

And no mate, when you refer to Royalty in the Australian Context you are actually referring to the Australian Crown. Australia does not belong to him at all.

Australia has closer relations with USA than Britain these days.


AUstralia has the highest what? Look again mate. Australia barely scrapes fourteenth. The EU is 1st.

Oh and you don't have a 2 trillion dollar economy. Its 1.4 and the EU is 18 tr

As for the AUstralian crown, hate to tell you this but your sovereign is the Queen of England. The only australian crown out there is a coin you chaps once had.


Touched a nerve have I?

You couldn't get more idiotic mate.

Now to destroy your stupidity one by one.

Australia does have a its own Crown Monarch and it is defined under the Constitution. Queen Elizabeth is the Shared Crown of a Number of Independent Countries - Australia, NZ, Canada for example. It is a separate Crown for each. Queen Elizabeth is the Monarch of Australia you silly boy. It is also the Monarch of Canada, Northern Ireland and NZ. We all get a Monarch as a system of Government free of charge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia

Now back to the GDP!

Australia has the 5th highest GDP per capita in the world. It is a lot higher than all EU members bar Switzerland and Norway. It has a higher GDP than the UK, France and Germany. Oh and our GDP is about 3 times more than that of Cyprus on a per capita basis.

On top of that, Australians are the richest on average in the world according to official statistics.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/gro ... -top-world

http://www.statista.com/statistics/2701 ... er-capita/

Now how stupid are you for comparing the GDP in real terms of the EU with a population of 600 million to that of Australia with population of 24 million? If we had Europe's population, our GDP is about 35 Trillion or about double that of the EU in real terms.

Silly boy!

I am flattered DT really!
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:09 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:October 31 - Daesh brings down a Russian plane killing 224 innocent people,
November 13 - Daesh stages an attack on Paris killing 129 innocent people,
to say nothing of the inhuman atrocities committed by Daesh on a daily basis against the inhabitants of the territory it occupies.

I say enough of this bickering, and it is time for all parties who have an interest in ending this scourge, and that includes Russia and the West, to unite for the common and limited purpose of taking out Daesh, after which they can resume their other disputes.


It looks like my wish may be coming true. The United Nations Security Council has unanimously adopted a resolution in support of the fight against Daesh.

The resolution “calls upon member states that have the capacity to do so to take all necessary measures ... on the territory under the control of ISIL ... in Syria and Iraq.”

IS “constitutes a global and unprecedented threat to international peace and security,” the resolution says.


https://www.rt.com/news/322931-un-resol ... rism-isis/

It would appear that Daesh has got too cocky and the genocidal gang has now signed its own death warrant. All action taken to defeat them is now sanctioned by international law.

These medieval savages ought to have been destroyed long ago. They belong in the dark ages not in the 21st century. They are a stigma on the overwhelming number of Muslims since their demonic savage acts have repercussions on all Muslims.
One must make a distinction between islamists and muslims, the former are a curse the latter will suffer as a result of the islamists actions.
Not all Germans were Nazis, not all Christians are Ku Klux Klan, not all muslims are islamists.
It is time to get boots on the ground and obliterate this menace .
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