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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:04 am

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Well it looks like you are backing the wrong horse Robin Hood, and are in a global minority. :wink:

As I said earlier, Russia has an image problem and no one trusts Putin and for good reason.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/08/05/rus ... the-world/

It's ok though. because these shenanigans are soon to stop. NATO and coalition aircraft have been given clearance to engage any Russian Fighters which enter Iraqi Airspace and any Russian aircraft which interferes or locks coalition aircraft.
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:28 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I really hate Russia. Actually, that is not even 100% correct. I don't really hate Russia or Russians, but I hate Putin. I hate him more than ISIL and ISIL is terrible.

Therefore, I got to admit, that helping ISIL now is beginning to be a tempting proposition (at least for me) but I think the Russians are helping ISIL instead. So we continue to bomb them.

You will NEVER get the nonsense argument from me that Assad is the lesser of 2 evils. NO WAY!


No, but we will get some other nonsense from you instead. You prefer ISIL (illegitimate, Islamist's, savages, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, human traffickers, sex offenders) instead of Putin. You ARE implying that ISIL is the lesser evil.

I cant see any rational respectable or educated sense in you anymore. You have really outdone yourself with this one.


They are both the same to me.

In fact Putin is a lot more dangerous.

This guy has lost the plot ! To say that he hates Putin more than he hates Isis is indicative of his immaturity and total lack of common sense. I have always been and always will be pro West and pro USA, however when actions by the west or the USA are blatantly stupid, as in the case of Syria, then I will criticize severely. Putin is adored by the vast majority of Russians and considered by the West to be a strong leader. Having encountered numerous Russians- Belarusians- over the last 5 plus years and having talked to many of them it became clear to me that Putin is revered by most.


The only thing crazy here has been Obama's inaction. You see, he might not be as gun-ho as Putin and perhaps that makes Obama a much better person if not a leader, but there are legitimate concerns about the aftermath which Putin does not share.

But what is even crazier, are people like you who claim to be "opting for the lesser of 2 evils".

Our policy is for regime change. We will not accept this "lesser of 2 evil" bollocks in the long run. And we will achieve that objective too.

Sorry, but Syrians have rights, and the 240,000 of them that have been killed by Assad will not be in vain. Sunnis have rights too.

Assad created this situation to protect his hold on power. It's not going to happen. Do you remember his attack Helicopters shooting peaceful demonstrators? If you want to accept that evil then so be it, but I won't. So don't talk about my intelligence or craziness when you don't even comprehend very basic concepts.

Tell me Einstein, what is the "lesser of 2 evils?

1) an American or Brit having his head chopped off on YouTube?

OR

2) Assad's Attack Choppers killing several Arab Spring demonstrators?

Honestly, I don't know how some of you can live with yourselves.

If you want to start this "lesser of 2 evils" nonsense (which I don't understand myself) then choose what really is the "lesser of 2 evils" wisely. If you had to pick one, what will it be? A poor bugger being beheaded or an Assad Attack Chopper over civilian demonstrators?

:roll:

As for me, I am unwilling to accept both evils, because they are both abhorrent. You want to accept "the lesser of 2 evils". :roll:
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:11 am

Paphitis wrote:Well it looks like you are backing the wrong horse Robin Hood, and are in a global minority. :wink:

As I said earlier, Russia has an image problem and no one trusts Putin and for good reason.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/08/05/rus ... the-world/

It's ok though. because these shenanigans are soon to stop. NATO and coalition aircraft have been given clearance to engage any Russian Fighters which enter Iraqi Airspace and any Russian aircraft which interferes or locks coalition aircraft.

A Research Center in Washington hired by the US government = GARBAGE! :lol:

I gave you 20 odd mixed articles from all over the world of Putin’s popularity.

Making a total fool of yourself is your expertise! :roll: :lol:
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:15 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Well it looks like you are backing the wrong horse Robin Hood, and are in a global minority. :wink:

As I said earlier, Russia has an image problem and no one trusts Putin and for good reason.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/08/05/rus ... the-world/

It's ok though. because these shenanigans are soon to stop. NATO and coalition aircraft have been given clearance to engage any Russian Fighters which enter Iraqi Airspace and any Russian aircraft which interferes or locks coalition aircraft.

A Research Center in Washington hired by the US government = GARBAGE! :lol:

I gave you 20 odd mixed articles from all over the world of Putin’s popularity.

Making a total fool of yourself is your expertise! :roll: :lol:


Your articles are Russian propaganda sites.

An American site is not controlled by the US Government and this Institute has independently gathered some data which for some countries Putin has a favorable assessment. However, on the whole and as we all know, most people think Putin sticks like dog balls!
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby DT. » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:25 am

Paphitis's recent love for anything turkish is shocking and personally would rally round Martians if they were attacking the country that occupies my home.

But nevertheless the site he presented is not funded by the US govt, but by the Pew family thats owns Sun Oil Co. Republicans that happen to be in the top 80 richest americans.
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:32 am

Paphitis wrote:Your articles are Russian propaganda sites.

Utter garbage! There are plenty of American sites in my list you Turkish cock sucking jerk... :lol:
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:34 am

DT. wrote:Paphitis's recent love for anything turkish is shocking and personally would rally round Martians if they were attacking the country that occupies my home.

But nevertheless the site he presented is not funded by the US govt, but by the Pew family thats owns Sun Oil Co. Republicans that happen to be in the top 80 richest americans.


How appalling of you DT. Somehow I expected a bit better from you.

I do not support Turks but I will support their right to defend themselves from Putin but not Cyprus if it's willing to launch an invasion or massive offensive on Constantinople.

I do not support them occupying your home but I fail to see the connection with Putin's rubbish. You of all people should be the first to understand that Putin is no different to turkey and all you need to do is look to Ukraine to see that.

This thing about "my enemies enemy is my friend will do you all no good. Turkey will not be destroyed by Russia nor will there be a war between Russia and NATO.
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:44 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Your articles are Russian propaganda sites.

Utter garbage! There are plenty of American sites in my list you Turkish cock sucking jerk... :lol:


Well this is just an American site which has no affiliation to the US Government. The USA is free country and has freedoms for its press and Institutions.

My link is a lot more valid than most of the garbage you're posting.

They actually did you a favour by not publishing the sentiment in Ukraine and Holland. In Australia, Putin did way better than expected because when he was visiting, the outcry was to not let the bastard into the country.
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Your articles are Russian propaganda sites.

Utter garbage! There are plenty of American sites in my list you Turkish cock sucking jerk... :lol:


Well this is just an American site which has no affiliation to the US Government. The USA is free country and has freedoms for its press and Institutions.

My link is a lot more valid than most of the garbage you're posting.

It’s not surprising (you Turkish cock sucking punk) that NOBODY was interested in meeting up with you when you asked me to arrange a pub meet a few months ago… I swear I tried but nobody was interested Psoriti although I hid it from you and gave an excuse, and I think it’s time you learned the bitter truth and maybe understood why!
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Re: I hate Putin more than ISIL

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:51 am

Pewglobal is a think tank:

this is from their website.

Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions.

Our mission

We generate a foundation of facts that enriches the public dialogue and supports sound decision-making. We are nonprofit, nonpartisan and nonadvocacy. We value independence, objectivity, accuracy, rigor, humility, transparency and innovation.
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We study U.S. politics and policy; journalism and media; internet, science and technology; religion and public life; Hispanic trends; global attitudes and trends; and U.S. social and demographic trends. Read more

Our methods

We’re committed to meeting the highest methodological standards—and to exploring the newest frontiers of research. Read more

Our people

We are led by Michael Dimock and have a staff of more than 130 people. Our experts combine the observational and storytelling skills of journalists with the analytical rigor of social scientists.

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We are a subsidiary of The Pew Charitable Trusts, our primary funder. Read more

Our history

We originated in a research project created in 1990 called the Times Mirror Center for the People & the Press. In 2004, The Pew Charitable Trusts established the Pew Research Center as a subsidiary to house its information initiatives. Read more

They disclose who their funders are and they seem to be heavily involved in charity work in the USA. They are mostly non political and mainly concentrate on sociology, race relations, religion etc etc.

http://www.pewresearch.org/about/our-funding/
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