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[kurupetos]

I put together a map demonstrating how trading and thus navigation most likely took place in 1200BC, but unfortunately I keep getting told by the forum software that the image is invalid even though is displays ok at my end.

Ah well, maybe I’ll try again later.

Is it that intelligent?

I keep getting this shit...

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Because you're trying to post some shit...

[Get Real!]

I put together a map demonstrating how trading and thus navigation most likely took place in 1200BC, but unfortunately I keep getting told by the forum software that the image is invalid even though is displays ok at my end.

Ah well, maybe I’ll try again later.

Is it that intelligent?

I keep getting this shit...

invalid.JPG

Because you're trying to post some shit...

You reckon?

Or maybe I'm getting BLOCKED by the Hellenics!

[Nikitas]

Small boat ocean crossings and circumnavigations-

http://www.microcruising.com/famoussmallboats.htm

Some as small as 5 feet 4 inches crossed the Atlantic.

The raft Kon Tiki in 1947 (pre GPS) sailed from South America across the Pacific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-tiki# ... inside.jpg

[Get Real!]

Small boat ocean crossings and circumnavigations-

http://www.microcruising.com/famoussmallboats.htm

Some as small as 5 feet 4 inches crossed the Atlantic.

The raft Kon Tiki in 1947 (pre GPS) sailed from South America across the Pacific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-tiki# ... inside.jpg

For every successful case of a boat surviving the un-survivable there must be hundreds if not thousands that didn’t!

[Sotos]

GR is talking crap as always. If the Greeks couldn't get to Cyprus (and there are far easier ways to get to Cyprus from mainland Greece than a direct line from Crete), then how did the Chirokitians get to Cyprus 1000s of years earlier with primitive prehistoric technology? If we follow GRs logic then Cyprus should have remained uninhabited until the invention of GPS GRs... on a normal day you can easily make that 11km trip from Turkey to Farmakonisi with this boat:



... as long as there are 1-2 people on it, and not 10!

Ever thought the Mediterranean was a giant lake which dried up and people just walked accross it?
How about the animals, you think they charted boats to get to cyprus or you think migration was only limited to humans...

You can IMAGINE whatever your want... but don't confuse that with facts. There is some theory that Mediterranean dried up... but that was 5 million years ago, LONG before any humans existed. ALL humans that came to Cyprus came here by crossing the sea. And if prehistoric humans could do it then certainly the Greeks could as well. It is a FACT that the Greeks and several other civilizations of those times had ships good enough to navigate seas such as the Mediterranean. Arguing against this fact simply exposes your ignorance. Crossing an ocean is a different story, but you don't need to cross an ocean to get from mainland Greece to Cyprus.

[boomerang]

GR is talking crap as always. If the Greeks couldn't get to Cyprus (and there are far easier ways to get to Cyprus from mainland Greece than a direct line from Crete), then how did the Chirokitians get to Cyprus 1000s of years earlier with primitive prehistoric technology? If we follow GRs logic then Cyprus should have remained uninhabited until the invention of GPS GRs... on a normal day you can easily make that 11km trip from Turkey to Farmakonisi with this boat:



... as long as there are 1-2 people on it, and not 10!

Ever thought the Mediterranean was a giant lake which dried up and people just walked accross it?
How about the animals, you think they charted boats to get to cyprus or you think migration was only limited to humans...

You can IMAGINE whatever your want... but don't confuse that with facts. There is some theory that Mediterranean dried up... but that was 5 million years ago, LONG before any humans existed. ALL humans that came to Cyprus came here by crossing the sea. And if prehistoric humans could do it then certainly the Greeks could as well. It is a FACT that the Greeks and several other civilizations of those times had ships good enough to navigate seas such as the Mediterranean. Arguing against this fact simply exposes your ignorance. Crossing an ocean is a different story, but you don't need to cross an ocean to get from mainland Greece to Cyprus.

Homo erectus georgicus, which lived roughly 1.8 million years ago in Georgia, is the earliest hominid to have been discovered in Europe.[41] Other hominid remains, dating back roughly 1 million years, have been discovered in Atapuerca, Spain.[42] Neanderthal man (named after the Neandertal valley in Germany) appeared in Europe 150,000 years ago and disappeared from the fossil record about 28,000 BC, with this extinction probably due to climate change, and their final refuge being present-day Portugal. The Neanderthals were supplanted by modern humans (Cro-Magnons), who appeared in Europe around 43 to 40 thousand years ago.[43]

This is what we know today... with each passing day we will know more... maybe not in our life time but people will know more with the passage of time... Greek existence is a blimp to earth history...but please do not allow facts get ahead of Greek mythology, where everything begun with the Greeks....

I am not disputing how Greeks or anyone moved around, what I am disputing is your statement on how chorokitians and other humanoids got to Cyprus...

Google is banned in my nick of the woods and I am very limited in researching and presenting more facts... but one thing is for sure the continents were joined as a one land mass, not once but estimated many times due to the movement of plates... today all the land masses are moving into joining again and predicted Greece will disappear and turkey rising with as a giant mountain...

[DrCyprus]

This is what we know today... with each passing day we will know more... maybe not in our life time but people will know more with the passage of time... Greek existence is a blimp to earth history...but please do not allow facts get ahead of Greek mythology, where everything begun with the Greeks....

I am not disputing how Greeks or anyone moved around, what I am disputing is your statement on how chorokitians and other humanoids got to Cyprus...

Google is banned in my nick of the woods and I am very limited in researching and presenting more facts... but one thing is for sure the continents were joined as a one land mass, not once but estimated many times due to the movement of plates... today all the land masses are moving into joining again and predicted Greece will disappear and turkey rising with as a giant mountain...

Thank you for sharing what everyone already knows, but it's out of topic.

[Get Real!]

ALL humans that came to Cyprus came here by crossing the sea. And if prehistoric humans could do it then certainly the Greeks could as well. It is a FACT that the Greeks and several other civilizations of those times had ships good enough to navigate seas such as the Mediterranean. Arguing against this fact simply exposes your ignorance. Crossing an ocean is a different story, but you don't need to cross an ocean to get from mainland Greece to Cyprus.

Greeks learned everything they knew much later from far more ancient civilizations which were part of the Cradle of Civilization like Cypriots, Egyptians, Phoenicians, etc.

"Of oaks from Bashan they made your oars; of cypress wood from the coasts of Cyprus they made your deck, adorned with ivory." Ezekiel 27:6

Also, the Amarna letters (1350s – 1330s BC) prove beyond any reasonable doubt; with scientific evidence as opposed to Greek mythology, that the Kingdom of Cyprus was a world power liaising with its neighbors and there was no sign of "Mycenaeans" in the vicinity.

Anyway, the argument in question is the METHOD used by ships of the time to navigate which had to have been multiple loops very close to shores and not direct navigation.

[DrCyprus]

It's common knowledge that the Phoenicians had already colonised Cyprus when the Greeks arrived. It's also common knowledge that Cypriot phoenicians cohabited with the Greeks and were eventually hellenised.

[Get Real!]

The Amarna letters (ancient tablet correspondence unearthed in Egypt) prove beyond any reasonable doubt with tangible evidence that the only known political powers circa 1300BC were as follows:

* Babylonia
* Assyria
* Egypt
* Mittani
* Arzawa
* Alashiya (Cyprus)
* Hatti
* Canaan

Not a single shred of evidence was found of a “Mycenaean” people or from a “Mycenae”, which completely squashes Greek mythology that is being fed to our students by our daft and treasonous Ministry of Education.