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SENS fundraiser: $125,000 matching fund...

Postby tsukoui » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:31 pm

This should really be in the health section...

This years SENS fundraiser hopes to match $125,000 to donations to raise a cool $250,000 towards 1000 year lifespans by 2040...

The big money is being poured into genetic research for slowing aging... but the understanding and technology is at least 100 years away... the SENS approach of treating the causes of aging with existing technology promises to deliver 1000 year lifespans within 25 years... if it gets the funding which unfortunately at present it isn't getting... if survival is your game... and your not as enlightened as Li Qingyun then you might consider donating and urging your friends to too...

You find the details to make a donation here:

https://www.fightaging.org/fund-research/
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Postby Sotos » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:40 pm

Even if you spend 250 trillion you wouldn't get 1000 year lifespans in 25 years. 250.000 is practically nothing when it comes to raising the lifespan and the claim for "1000 year lifespans by 2040" should have made it clear to you that this is a scam.
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Postby tsukoui » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:50 pm

Sotos wrote:Even if you spend 250 trillion you wouldn't get 1000 year lifespans in 25 years. 250.000 is practically nothing when it comes to raising the lifespan and the claim for "1000 year lifespans by 2040" should have made it clear to you that this is a scam.


Here is an interview with Aubrey de Grey that makes the 25 year claim:
http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

And here he makes the following estimate:
I think the first person to live to 1,000 might be 60 already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:52 pm

It’s dumb and selfish trying to fight aging as there’s no escape from death.
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Re: SENS fundraiser: $125,000 matching fund...

Postby tsukoui » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:It’s dumb and selfish trying to fight aging as there’s no escape from death.

It's no more dumb and selfish than most other things people do, isn't it better than investing in arms?
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Re: SENS fundraiser: $125,000 matching fund...

Postby Sotos » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:12 am

tsukoui wrote:
Sotos wrote:Even if you spend 250 trillion you wouldn't get 1000 year lifespans in 25 years. 250.000 is practically nothing when it comes to raising the lifespan and the claim for "1000 year lifespans by 2040" should have made it clear to you that this is a scam.


Here is an interview with Aubrey de Grey that makes the 25 year claim:
http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

And here he makes the following estimate:
I think the first person to live to 1,000 might be 60 already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm


There is a huge difference between theory and practice. We haven't even been able to cure cancer yet. If our civilization continues to advance then maybe one day with genetic engineering and other medical advances we will manage to achieve lifespans which are multiple times of those that exist today. But the claim that this can be done in 25 years is ridiculous. And the claim that $250.000 can have any significant impact in such kind of research is beyond ridiculous.
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Re: SENS fundraiser: $125,000 matching fund...

Postby tsukoui » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:15 am

Sotos wrote:
tsukoui wrote:
Sotos wrote:Even if you spend 250 trillion you wouldn't get 1000 year lifespans in 25 years. 250.000 is practically nothing when it comes to raising the lifespan and the claim for "1000 year lifespans by 2040" should have made it clear to you that this is a scam.


Here is an interview with Aubrey de Grey that makes the 25 year claim:
http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

And here he makes the following estimate:
I think the first person to live to 1,000 might be 60 already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm


There is a huge difference between theory and practice. We haven't even been able to cure cancer yet. If our civilization continues to advance then maybe one day with genetic engineering and other medical advances we will manage to achieve lifespans which are multiple times of those that exist today. But the claim that this can be done in 25 years is ridiculous. And the claim that $250.000 can have any significant impact in such kind of research is beyond ridiculous.

The claim is that it requires about a billion dollars a year, so yes $250,000 won't make much difference in that sense, the idea however is to generate momentum...
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Re: SENS fundraiser: $125,000 matching fund...

Postby Sotos » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:24 am

tsukoui wrote:
Sotos wrote:
tsukoui wrote:
Sotos wrote:Even if you spend 250 trillion you wouldn't get 1000 year lifespans in 25 years. 250.000 is practically nothing when it comes to raising the lifespan and the claim for "1000 year lifespans by 2040" should have made it clear to you that this is a scam.


Here is an interview with Aubrey de Grey that makes the 25 year claim:
http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

And here he makes the following estimate:
I think the first person to live to 1,000 might be 60 already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm


There is a huge difference between theory and practice. We haven't even been able to cure cancer yet. If our civilization continues to advance then maybe one day with genetic engineering and other medical advances we will manage to achieve lifespans which are multiple times of those that exist today. But the claim that this can be done in 25 years is ridiculous. And the claim that $250.000 can have any significant impact in such kind of research is beyond ridiculous.

The claim is that it requires about a billion dollars a year, so yes $250,000 won't make much difference in that sense, the idea however is to generate momentum...


That is like saying that if I raise $50 it will create a momentum for buying a $200.000 Ferrari. Totally pointless. If he truly had a case then he should have been able to convince governments, corporations and the billionaires instead of trying to scam some naive people.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:35 am

In any case ... imagine how much more terrible death would be if you could live for virtually forever as a young healthy person. Imagine a 30 year old (practically an infant with the new standards) dying in an accident. And then there is also the question of overpopulation ... if people stop dying, then making babies would be inevitably banned and would be allowed only in a few rare cases! So living that much longer would mean that much less people would be created. 1000 year lifespans would create a totally different kind of world.
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