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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:26 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:Nikita's wrote:



What is not clear is if the rule is an optional one or compulsory. In other words can the TC constituent state raise objections about the GC state allowing in people from the EU on its own territory, or vice versa.

If it's in the solution, then whatever is in the solution becomes federal law and both constituent states would be obligated to follow...both states would also be obligated to enforce and pass state laws in order that the law is followed. Not only will the Tc state have restrictions but as you just pointed out the Greek Cypriot state would be obligated to have them also...


Nikitas also wrote:
The other factor not considered by the mandarins is the general prohbition of EU law in the lifting of the corporate veil in case of Eu investments. Greece has already lost a case on this point when it wanted to examine the shareholding and identify individual shareholders of media companies. So how will they control quoted public EU companies buying land in the two regions? Even if they do, when a company buys land with approved shareholders the ownership of the shares can change instantly in any stock exchange after the sale.


another good point....it sounds like they want to turn Cyprus into nazi Germany, where the government will have the power to stop anyone on the street and ask for their race/religion and residence to see whether or not the"sultan's" laws are being followed...or break into any government clerks office to see who bought a piece of property in Kyrenia and what religion and race they were..the possibilities are endless.


in order for something like this to be followed, Cyprus would have to leave the European Union.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:25 pm

thats bullshit and you know it. permanent derogation were in the annan plan and eu did not object to them. we are not talking about permanent derogation to stop gcs living in the north. we are talking about preserving our basic human right to govern ourselves under a federal state system. if it was acceptable in 2004 it will be acceptable now too. you are using it as an excuse. you welcome to use it as an excuse and fool gcs to vote against the plan this time. on your head be it boy. if gc population is so stupid to believe it then we dont want you to be with you under bbf. win win.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:28 pm

Lordo wrote:thats bullshit and you know it. permanent derogation were in the annan plan and eu did not object to them. we are not talking about permanent derogation to stop gcs living in the north. we are talking about preserving our basic human right to govern ourselves under a federal state system. if it was acceptable in 2004 it will be acceptable now too. you are using it as an excuse. you welcome to use it as an excuse and fool gcs to vote against the plan this time. on your head be it boy. if gc population is so stupid to believe it then we dont want you to be with you under bbf. win win.


Please tell us all about the human rights of the Kurds in Turkey. Do they have their own federal government? :o
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:36 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Lordo wrote:thats bullshit and you know it. permanent derogation were in the annan plan and eu did not object to them. we are not talking about permanent derogation to stop gcs living in the north. we are talking about preserving our basic human right to govern ourselves under a federal state system. if it was acceptable in 2004 it will be acceptable now too. you are using it as an excuse. you welcome to use it as an excuse and fool gcs to vote against the plan this time. on your head be it boy. if gc population is so stupid to believe it then we dont want you to be with you under bbf. win win.


Please tell us all about the human rights of the Kurds in Turkey. Do they have their own federal government? :o

fist solve the cyprus problem and we then can then turn our attention of the terggish problem in kerdistan. one at time.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:05 pm

Lordo wrote:thats bullshit and you know it. permanent derogation were in the annan plan and eu did not object to them. we are not talking about permanent derogation to stop gcs living in the north. we are talking about preserving our basic human right to govern ourselves under a federal state system. if it was acceptable in 2004 it will be acceptable now too. you are using it as an excuse. you welcome to use it as an excuse and fool gcs to vote against the plan this time. on your head be it boy. if gc population is so stupid to believe it then we dont want you to be with you under bbf. win win.



Because you moron Cyprus wasn't in the eu during the referendum
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:35 pm

ise delya vosgos gavole.

you think for one moment the eu was not involved in the negotiations knwoing that if we had a yes from both sides cyprus as a whole would have joined the eu. how stupid are you ffs.

in fact the eu rep was at the talks all the time and expressed their support for the talks and the annan plan and even promised to remove the embargoes even if gcs voted no. the fact that they did not keep their promise is neither here nor there. but reality check kicked in just after the vote. the eu did not count on what assholing assholes they were letting into the eu. not realising that the president who negotiated the deal would campaign against the deal. they they realised that have let in the vosgos and kep out the civilised lot.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:05 pm

Lordo wrote:fist solve the cyprus problem and we then can then turn our attention of the terggish problem in kerdistan. one at time.


We are all awaiting for Turkey, as a bigger country, to give a good example to the whole of the region. All the same according to Erdogan we should be bombing you or something. :roll:
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:36 pm

Lordo wrote:ise delya vosgos gavole.

you think for one moment the eu was not involved in the negotiations knwoing that if we had a yes from both sides cyprus as a whole would have joined the eu. how stupid are you ffs.

in fact the eu rep was at the talks all the time and expressed their support for the talks and the annan plan and even promised to remove the embargoes even if gcs voted no. the fact that they did not keep their promise is neither here nor there. but reality check kicked in just after the vote. the eu did not count on what assholing assholes they were letting into the eu. not realising that the president who negotiated the deal would campaign against the deal. they they realised that have let in the vosgos and kep out the civilised lot.


and you heard all this while at the kaffenio, where your cousin hangs out...
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:22 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Lordo wrote:ise delya vosgos gavole.

you think for one moment the eu was not involved in the negotiations knwoing that if we had a yes from both sides cyprus as a whole would have joined the eu. how stupid are you ffs.

in fact the eu rep was at the talks all the time and expressed their support for the talks and the annan plan and even promised to remove the embargoes even if gcs voted no. the fact that they did not keep their promise is neither here nor there. but reality check kicked in just after the vote. the eu did not count on what assholing assholes they were letting into the eu. not realising that the president who negotiated the deal would campaign against the deal. they they realised that have let in the vosgos and kep out the civilised lot.


and you heard all this while at the kaffenio, where your cousin hangs out...


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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:25 am

Oceanside50 wrote:
Lordo wrote:ise delya vosgos gavole.

you think for one moment the eu was not involved in the negotiations knwoing that if we had a yes from both sides cyprus as a whole would have joined the eu. how stupid are you ffs.

in fact the eu rep was at the talks all the time and expressed their support for the talks and the annan plan and even promised to remove the embargoes even if gcs voted no. the fact that they did not keep their promise is neither here nor there. but reality check kicked in just after the vote. the eu did not count on what assholing assholes they were letting into the eu. not realising that the president who negotiated the deal would campaign against the deal. they they realised that have let in the vosgos and kep out the civilised lot.


and you heard all this while at the kaffenio, where your cousin hangs out...

lets face it you bastards are clueless as to how these talks are taking place. are you saying that there was no eu rep at the talks in 2004. and he did not want to go on tv to talk about how the media was distorting the plan and what it meant. are you really as stupid as you sound. ffs. f....in ell.
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