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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:32 am

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
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insan wrote:We ccan have an equal political power on all vital issues that directly related about TCs situation in Cyprus... a legal political power that can only be used on all vital issues... what's wrong with it... it provides protection againts and possible ill intention of GC ruling elite...

No you can't… for exactly the same reasons the Kurds in Turkey are not a "equal political power".

Every country has it's own historical development regarding the power sharing and so far the Kurds in Turkey haven't demanded such a power sharing... so let's stick with only ours under this thread...

Maybe when Erdogan stops bombing them they may request a separate state. :?

Would you support them?

It was different in our case... we started demanding political equality before you started bombing us!

Well aren't you lucky!

So, would you support them?
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby insan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:49 am

Of course... the consociational democracy is a must for every state that composed by considerable percent of people from various ethnicities and of course if they have a serious conflict on some vital issues... this the case of Cyprus... we actually wish reunification as a community... but in Turkey, there isn't any public support, even official international support behind PKK terrorists for a seperate state... and these terrorists haven't demanded a BBF and political equality... there is a huge difference between our case and their case...
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:54 am

insan wrote:Of course... the consociational democracy is a must for every state that composed by considerable percent of people from various ethnicities and of course if they have a serious conflict on some vital issues... this the case of Cyprus... we actually wish reunification as a community... but in Turkey, there isn't any public support, even official international support behind PKK terrorists for a seperate state... and these terrorists haven't demanded a BBF and political equality... there is a huge difference between our case and their case...

So you are in support of a Kurdistan in East Turkey right?
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby insan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:57 am

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insan wrote:Of course... the consociational democracy is a must for every state that composed by considerable percent of people from various ethnicities and of course if they have a serious conflict on some vital issues... this the case of Cyprus... we actually wish reunification as a community... but in Turkey, there isn't any public support, even official international support behind PKK terrorists for a seperate state... and these terrorists haven't demanded a BBF and political equality... there is a huge difference between our case and their case...

So you are in support of a Kurdistan in East Turkey right?


No... ain't what i said above clear?
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:59 am

insan wrote:No


It is the duty of every Turkish Cypriot to demand that the rights of the Kurds in Turkey be ratified and that the Kurds are finally allowed to build their own state on their ancestral homelands that predate the arrival of the Turks by thousands of years.

Any Turkish Cypriot who does not support the rights of the Kurds is a charlatan and should be thrown out of Cyprus.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby insan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:02 am

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Hello charlatan with double standards who pretends to be part of an opressed minority. Please move your ass to the nearest ship back to Turkey.


You have nothing to intellectually contribute to this issue... so at least shut up and listen reh vordos!
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:03 am

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insan wrote:No


Hello charlatan with double standards who pretends to be part of an opressed minority. Please move your ass to the nearest ship back to Turkey.


You have nothing to intellectually contribute to this issue... so at least shut up and listen reh vordos!


It is the duty of every Turkish Cypriot to demand that the rights of the Kurds in Turkey be ratified and that the Kurds are finally allowed to build their own state on their ancestral homelands that predate the arrival of the Turks by thousands of years.

Any Turkish Cypriot who does not support the rights of the Kurds is a charlatan and should be thrown out of Cyprus.

Double standard kids like you should be done away with.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby insan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:16 am

DrCyprus wrote:
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insan wrote:No


Hello charlatan with double standards who pretends to be part of an opressed minority. Please move your ass to the nearest ship back to Turkey.


You have nothing to intellectually contribute to this issue... so at least shut up and listen reh vordos!


It is the duty of every Turkish Cypriot to demand that the rights of the Kurds in Turkey be ratified and that the Kurds are finally allowed to build their own state on their ancestral homelands that predate the arrival of the Turks by thousands of years.

Any Turkish Cypriot who does not support the rights of the Kurds is a charlatan and should be thrown out of Cyprus.

Double standard kids like you should be done away with.


Let's dig this ancestral lands issue since Adam and Eve eh? :lol:

Kurds Confiscating Ancestral Lands of Indigenous Assyrians
http://www.atour.com/news/assyria/20121001a.html

Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians and even Israelities all claim the same region belongs to them... how comes? there were Hittites there who later inter mingled with Seljuk Turks and due coarse were Turkified... Kurds moved in later... the last and reproduced there 5x faster than the Turks either by having more children and by migration from neighbouring countries... Don't believe the cliches... just make a research and read more... but such a vordos like you doesn't seem like capable to do this...
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:52 am

insan wrote:Let's dig this ancestral lands issue since Adam and Eve eh? :lol:

Kurds Confiscating Ancestral Lands of Indigenous Assyrians
http://www.atour.com/news/assyria/20121001a.html

Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians and even Israelities all claim the same region belongs to them... how comes? there were Hittites there who later inter mingled with Seljuk Turks and due coarse were Turkified... Kurds moved in later... the last and reproduced there 5x faster than the Turks either by having more children and by migration from neighbouring countries... Don't believe the cliches... just make a research and read more... but such a vordos like you doesn't seem like capable to do this...


I have no time for the pseudoscience of a Turkish propaganda website. Print the pages of the article you posted, fold them, then shove them up yourself.

Hittites were a long extinct identity when the Turks arrived to Asia Minor. The very fact that you brought them up means that you serve no intelectual purpose to this thread and are just here to vomit propaganda bullshit. Every single thing you posted is by nature bullshit.

You really are fucked in the head if you put Hittites in the same chronological period as the Turks.
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Re: another excellent article by rolandis

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:26 pm

Just to undernote, the original Turks who came from western Asia were a minority of skillful warriors and continued to be a minority throughout the lifeline of the Seljuks and the Ottomans. In the early days you could mostly find pure Turks leading armies to battle and in the late days you could find them doing mostly administrative work. There are still people with deep Turkish features anywhere from Eastern Anatolia to Syria to Cyprus and Greece and Romania. This doesn't play any role whatsoever.

The modern Turkish nation is a construct of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, who used the means of his time to bring all the Muslim people who lived in Asia Minor together under one flag. Everyone viewed as a threat suffered genocide and expulsion, everyone Muslim had his ancestry high-jacked and was called a Turk. Atatürk created a whole mythology to support the claims of his nation to Anatolia, and that was served to people like Insan as "history".

Hittites were absorbed into Assyrians, Armenians etc since 800BC. The fun fact of the day is that the Armenians were in Eastern Anatolia from the beginning of the Hittite civilization and saw it to it's end.
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