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America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:26 am

America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

After almost three decades of invading and occupying 3rd world defenseless countries and the unprecedented corruption and incompetence that came with it having squandered trillions of dollars and morphing its military into a giant subjugation machine of the downtrodden and defenseless, I’m not so sure the US can deliver all the military hype against a serious opponent like Russia anymore.

It’s become clear that today the US is seriously lagging in the rocketry department, seriously lagging in the aviation department (unless you consider the Raptor a success), seriously lagging in the radar and communications department, and in a whole bunch of other areas as a result of wasting too many years researching and developing junk that only aided the subjugation of occupied 3rd world nations.

The US has had its military industry geared towards researching and developing IED detectors, vehicle armor protectors, bullet proof vests, and a whole bunch of other useless junk while outsourcing its offensive weapons to China and elsewhere. This has left the US in the precarious position of surrendering blueprints of their technologies to former enemies. Indeed, China has recently presented a 5th generation fighter jet confidently promoted as superior to the American counterpart.

Lately it seems that the major powers have started to smell and taste blood… blood oozing out of the wounds of a tired and folding global dictator that dominated politics and global affairs for over 75 years.

For example, it wouldn’t be unfounded to suspect that Japan’s primary goal for suddenly resurrecting its military is not the Chinese threat but the ousting of the US military from Japanese soil or the gigantic American aircraft carriers that were once feared worldwide now seen by modern potent corvettes as juicy targets.

These days America seems like a huge complex military machine of yesterday that can no longer be maintained and upgraded fast enough to keep up with its smaller but technologically superior adversaries like France, China, or Russia. Japan is also expected and well poised to make quick manufacturing leaps in an effort to close the gap and join the new kids on the block.
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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:18 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Delusional!

I'll tell you what.

You specifically tell me exactly what areas the USA is lagging behind, and I will prove to you that it's not. For example, if you thing the US is lagging behind in the aviation sphere, tell me exactly why and how, and I will debunk it in like 10 seconds.

Good grief Get Real. You're posting so much nonsense. :lol:

And a corvette finding a US Aircraft Carrier as a juicy target. If they get to within 500 kms of one and still be floating would be an achievement. :lol:
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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:01 am

You're sound asleep as per usual. Hear it from the horse's mouth. This from last year, but now they're even further behind:

"Hagel, Pentagon say U.S. falling behind in warfare technology"
http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2014/11/2 ... echnology/

US military tactics falling behind those of adversaries, Pentagon official warns
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... cial-warns
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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:06 am

Get Real! wrote:You're sound asleep as per usual. Hear it from the horse's mouth. This from last year, but now they're even further behind:

"Hagel, Pentagon say U.S. falling behind in warfare technology"
http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2014/11/2 ... echnology/

US military tactics falling behind those of adversaries, Pentagon official warns
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... cial-warns


Yes I am sure many have their opinions, but I don't see it.

Exactly where are they falling behind? Be specific.

Tell me what foreign submarines or aircraft are superior to the US equivalent. You mentioned rocketry as well. Which system is superior? Have you heard of the Tomahawk Cruise Missile which has a range of 3,000kms? That's about double the Russian equivalent and they don't miss their targets.

You also mentioned radar. The most advance radar network on the planet is in fact the Jindalee Network that is made in Australia. No country has such an extensive network and it even detects surface vessels down to 0FT! There is no curvature blind area because it deflects radiation from the troposphere down to the earth's surface.

Break it down for us so that we can dissect it the technologies one by one.
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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:29 am

If Chuck Hagel's word doesn't count and we should all just be listening to you then this argument is over. :lol:

Do your own research Koala it's easy... take rocketry as an example, like this:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... /?page=all
http://www.space.com/26551-us-military- ... gines.html
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/5/5674744/how ... ace-travel
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/withou ... -on-spacex
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150630/1024037222.html

But you're so incompetent in research that this is the best I can offer you... :lol:

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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:38 am

Stop making a fool of yourself.

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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:04 am

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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:51 am

Paphitis:

You rhetoric remains me of the 'gung-ho' attitude of the US when they went into Vietnam! It would all be over in a matter of weeks as they chased a rag-tag army of peasants with pitchforks back into the jungle. Some 7 years later the 'peasants' wopped the US's arse and sent them running for their lives. The mighty US war machine was defeated! Going on memory it cost the US ~75 thousand lives, the Vietnamese around 3m and goodness knows how many millions when you include Laos and Cambodia ......... who just happened to be collateral damage? The devastation caused by the US with their chemical weapons and cluster bombs (Bombies) are still killing and maiming today in all three countries.

This conflict in Syria would have gone the same way as Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. had the Russians not intervened and showed simple common sense. Use the regime to defeat the terrorists and then deal with the regime. As Putin keeps saying .... over and over again ..... the decision as to who rules Syria is a decision for the Syrian people and nobody else. I am afraid the war mongering 'coalition' just don't get the picture. the US and its allies should never have interfered in Syria in the first place. :x
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Re: America’s farewell and the opportunity of others…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:58 am

Nice pictures Paphiti... now here's the real story and nobody seems to be agreeing with you:


US Military Getting Smaller and Older as Adversaries Develop Capabilities
http://sputniknews.com/world/20151021/1 ... itary.html

U.S. Military Now Too Weak To Defend The Nation
http://www.inquisitr.com/1877546/u-s-mi ... port-says/

US Military Power 'Marginal' or 'Weak' in Most Categories
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-mil ... id/626696/

The Tragedy of the American Military
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... ry/383516/

Under Obama, Our Military’s Strength Has Significantly Decreased
http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/26/weapon_system_revive/

Obama is destroying US military’s fighting ability from within, general warns
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/09/27/ ... ent-page-2


And what do they think of Russia?


Russia’s Military Campaign – Next Stop Iraq
http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/11/russi ... stop-iraq/

Russia publicly demonstrating its military might through Syrian campaign
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... -officials

How The West Underestimated Russia’s Military Power
http://thediplomat.com/2015/10/how-the- ... ary-power/

Russia’s Military Prowess Surprises Western Analysts
http://www.the-american-interest.com/20 ... -analysts/

New Russian military base reasserts claim on Arctic
http://www.news.com.au/world/new-russia ... 7578082782

Russia’s Syria strategy poses challenge to Nato in Mediterranean
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cec668a8-7714 ... 11c89.html


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