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What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:03 am

Will Erdo want to bring his Cyprus problem to a conclusion now? Will he make significant concessions in order maintain some sort of presence on the island? From today's Zaman (before it's closed down)

He pointed out that the Cyprus issue may be one of those issues to which government might push for a solution without worrying about upsetting the nationalists in Turkey, as the peace talks in the ethnically divided island between Turkish Cypriots in the north and Greek Cypriots in the south appear to be getting close to a final solution.


http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_tu ... 03200.html
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:59 pm

Not worth a thread. :lol: ErdoTwat can only offer more of the same.
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby umit07 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Nobody is getting close to anything. What has Cyprus got to offer Sultan Er dog an?
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby B25 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:17 pm

umit07 wrote:Nobody is getting close to anything. What has Cyprus got to offer Sultan Er dog an?



1. Recognition
2. Legalise Ercan
3. EU membership
4. Gas/Oil

Shall I go on, what you should ask is what can Erdogan offer us????
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:Not worth a thread. :lol: ErdoTwat can only offer more of the same.


No, not worth a thread because it wasn't started by the forum loudmouths, so why bother to respond? Erdo can offer what he likes now he has been crowned "Sultan". My guess is he will offer significant territorial concessions in return for some sort of military presence and derogations. Derogations could work both ways, it could stop the turkification of the south.
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby umit07 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:27 pm

B25 wrote:
umit07 wrote:Nobody is getting close to anything. What has Cyprus got to offer Sultan Er dog an?



1. Recognition
2. Legalise Ercan
3. EU membership
4. Gas/Oil

Shall I go on, what you should ask is what can Erdogan offer us????


1. Recognition (I'm not talking about TC's)
2. Legalise Ercan (again , not talking about TC's)
3. EU membership ( EU membership? Europe is will not accept Turkey, regardless of GC's)
4. Gas/Oil ( Not tangible atm, from the way things are shaping out GC's may need a pipeline to Turkey, to make this enterprise profitable)

BTW, this is a serious question, not trying to antagonise people.
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby B25 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:05 pm

umit07 wrote:
B25 wrote:
umit07 wrote:Nobody is getting close to anything. What has Cyprus got to offer Sultan Er dog an?



1. Recognition
2. Legalise Ercan
3. EU membership
4. Gas/Oil

Shall I go on, what you should ask is what can Erdogan offer us????


1. Recognition (I'm not talking about TC's)
2. Legalise Ercan (again , not talking about TC's)
3. EU membership ( EU membership? Europe is will not accept Turkey, regardless of GC's)
4. Gas/Oil ( Not tangible atm, from the way things are shaping out GC's may need a pipeline to Turkey, to make this enterprise profitable)

BTW, this is a serious question, not trying to antagonise people.


If you are not talking about the TCs then wtf has Erdo got to do with Cyprus????

Perhaps the TCs could offer him their ass's, would that be enough. I mean, what do you expect Cyprus to offer an invader occupier??
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:01 pm

Nothing will change. He has no motive to do anything. And I doubt that an Islamist would truly want Turkey to be part of EU... it is on their interest for financial reasons (and for legacy "Ataturk" reasons) to stay on the "path" for EU but beyond that why would an Islamist want to give up sovergnity to a mostly Christian club?
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby DrCyprus » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:59 pm

umit07 wrote:Nobody is getting close to anything. What has Cyprus got to offer Sultan Er dog an?


The legitimisation of tens of thousands of koulloufous settlers in the North as 'Turkish Cypriots'.
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Re: What does Erdogan's victory mean for Cyprus?

Postby insan » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:07 pm

Jerry wrote:Will Erdo want to bring his Cyprus problem to a conclusion now? Will he make significant concessions in order maintain some sort of presence on the island? From today's Zaman (before it's closed down)

He pointed out that the Cyprus issue may be one of those issues to which government might push for a solution without worrying about upsetting the nationalists in Turkey, as the peace talks in the ethnically divided island between Turkish Cypriots in the north and Greek Cypriots in the south appear to be getting close to a final solution.


http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_tu ... 03200.html



When we take into consideration that the negotiations to find a solution to the Cyprus problem has been going on since 1967(actually since mid 50s); "appear to be getting close" means, we need at least 5 more years to negotiate, mature it by equlizing the economies of 2 communities and then if the majorities of 2 communities vote yes; we could start materializing the solution, phase by phase...
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