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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:43 pm

Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Well lavrov has issued a statement urging a deal and encouraging BOTH sides to compromise. See Cyprus Mail

Sotos step out of your silly fantasy world Enosis is dead, leave the fantasy stuff to the children like kurupedos


The one who lives in fantasy land is you since I have never said that I want enosis and yet your dreams seem to overpower reality. If we were not interested in any kind of compromise then we wouldn't be negotiating, therefore Lavrov's statement doesn't mean that Russia keeps an equal distance from both sides.



Yes within the framework a bi zonal bi communal federation, not based on union with Greece or going back to pre 74. I guess you must be pretty pissed off that Akel and Disy have raised the electoral threshold.
Oh and before you start wailing abt Turkey, I could not care less abt Turkey. I wish them all the best same with Greece but they are foreign lands to me.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby Sotos » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:58 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Well lavrov has issued a statement urging a deal and encouraging BOTH sides to compromise. See Cyprus Mail

Sotos step out of your silly fantasy world Enosis is dead, leave the fantasy stuff to the children like kurupedos


The one who lives in fantasy land is you since I have never said that I want enosis and yet your dreams seem to overpower reality. If we were not interested in any kind of compromise then we wouldn't be negotiating, therefore Lavrov's statement doesn't mean that Russia keeps an equal distance from both sides.



Yes within the framework a bi zonal bi communal federation, not based on union with Greece or going back to pre 74. I guess you must be pretty pissed off that Akel and Disy have raised the electoral threshold.
Oh and before you start wailing abt Turkey, I could not care less abt Turkey. I wish them all the best same with Greece but they are foreign lands to me.



BBF is a vague term that can mean a lot of different things. With Annan plan DISY asked from its supporters to vote "yes" but 2/3rd of them voted "no". The same will happen again unless the new proposal is HUGELY better for our side than Annan plan was. And the reason they raised the threshold is to try to keep their own parties from breaking up... just a couple of weeks ago a DISY Euro MP left DISY and created another party.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:07 pm

Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Well lavrov has issued a statement urging a deal and encouraging BOTH sides to compromise. See Cyprus Mail

Sotos step out of your silly fantasy world Enosis is dead, leave the fantasy stuff to the children like kurupedos


The one who lives in fantasy land is you since I have never said that I want enosis and yet your dreams seem to overpower reality. If we were not interested in any kind of compromise then we wouldn't be negotiating, therefore Lavrov's statement doesn't mean that Russia keeps an equal distance from both sides.



Yes within the framework a bi zonal bi communal federation, not based on union with Greece or going back to pre 74. I guess you must be pretty pissed off that Akel and Disy have raised the electoral threshold.
Oh and before you start wailing abt Turkey, I could not care less abt Turkey. I wish them all the best same with Greece but they are foreign lands to me.



BBF is a vague term that can mean a lot of different things. With Annan plan DISY asked from its supporters to vote "yes" but 2/3rd of them voted "no". The same will happen again unless the new proposal is HUGELY better for our side than Annan plan was. And the reason they raised the threshold is to try to keep their own parties from breaking up... just a couple of weeks ago a DISY Euro MP left DISY and created another party.



I wonder if you really believe all your crap! The Enosis brigade made same distorted arguments and look at the results.
I hope 2016 will be interesting for Cyprus.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby Sotos » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:35 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Well lavrov has issued a statement urging a deal and encouraging BOTH sides to compromise. See Cyprus Mail

Sotos step out of your silly fantasy world Enosis is dead, leave the fantasy stuff to the children like kurupedos


The one who lives in fantasy land is you since I have never said that I want enosis and yet your dreams seem to overpower reality. If we were not interested in any kind of compromise then we wouldn't be negotiating, therefore Lavrov's statement doesn't mean that Russia keeps an equal distance from both sides.



Yes within the framework a bi zonal bi communal federation, not based on union with Greece or going back to pre 74. I guess you must be pretty pissed off that Akel and Disy have raised the electoral threshold.
Oh and before you start wailing abt Turkey, I could not care less abt Turkey. I wish them all the best same with Greece but they are foreign lands to me.



BBF is a vague term that can mean a lot of different things. With Annan plan DISY asked from its supporters to vote "yes" but 2/3rd of them voted "no". The same will happen again unless the new proposal is HUGELY better for our side than Annan plan was. And the reason they raised the threshold is to try to keep their own parties from breaking up... just a couple of weeks ago a DISY Euro MP left DISY and created another party.



I wonder if you really believe all your crap! The Enosis brigade made same distorted arguments and look at the results.
I hope 2016 will be interesting for Cyprus.


Many polls were made since the referendum that show that the same majority would still reject the Annan plan (or something similar). If you think that we will now vote for something like Annan plan then you need to wake up ;)
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:52 pm

We shall see as time will reveal all! :?:
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby Zenon33 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:17 pm

No one wants this third world country in Europe.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:19 pm

Zenon33 wrote:No one wants this third world country in Europe.

if they accepted cyprus greace bulgaria rumania etc etc why not terggy. terggy is more developed than these countries put together.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:37 pm

Lordo wrote:
Zenon33 wrote:No one wants this third world country in Europe.

if they accepted cyprus greace bulgaria rumania etc etc why not terggy. terggy is more developed than these countries put together.


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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:28 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Zenon33 wrote:No one wants this third world country in Europe.

if they accepted cyprus greace bulgaria rumania etc etc why not terggy. terggy is more developed than these countries put together.


Keep dreaming

what are you sayin that these countries are not third world. they are there for fodder for the eu corporations to suck the life out of them as greace and cyprus found out. dream on indeed.
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Re: EU Turkey summit

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:50 pm

The EU is at its advent. It is the spirit of the thing that is being kept alive by those who see the potential, globally speaking.

...of course, Turkey's issue is that they cannot meet the same criteria, more a question of margins of scale i think. While the benefits of reform are far greater in a country like Turkey, their cost is also significant because of Turkey's size. With Turkey, Europe is complete. While Europeans fear what could result if Turkey is not ready, Turkey herself must realise that by joining, because of her size, her leadership in Europe is instrumental in this community's success, and that her failure in this respect leads them and her to certain ruin.
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