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 Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:52 pm |
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| Look lets be realistic and turn the tables what if we were the majority would you accept these conditions because when you think about it majority of the peoples vote in the south will count for nothing, for this to succeed it can only be one person=one vote. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:26 pm |
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| Piratis |
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| Personaly I do not see a way forward that tries to impose one person one vote before there is a majority of Cypriots that consider themeslves of 'one cypriot identity'. |
And how will this happen if you award and promote separation by giving to some of the citizens 4.5 the voting power of some others? Why would the citizens that gain from separation ever decide to consider themselves as being just Cypriots and not "super Cypriots" as they will be used to? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:50 pm |
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| Look lets be realistic and turn the tables what if we were the majority would you accept these conditions because when you think about it majority of the peoples vote in the south will count for nothing, for this to succeed it can only be one person=one vote. |
As I emphasized it many many amny.. soooo many times before; political equality on legislative and judicial bodies is a must at least till the vast majority of both communities have felt themselves genuine Cypriots. It is clear to me that vast majority of Cypriots don't feel themselves as Cypriots in terms of what we imagine. This depends on their relations. If they would get along fairly good for 10 or 20 years time then they will automatically feel themselves as Cypriots in terms of what we imagine.
Are you able to make them feel how you imagine? Can you make them feel as Cypriots by just telling them you should consider yourselves as Cypriots?
It is obvious that it depends on their relations. They couldn't be Cypriots in last 400 years because of their relations. It is a fact that the ones who messed up everything were a small minority from both sides but it had been enough to divide two communities and caused them to suffer a lot. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:33 pm |
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| Insan i take note of what you are saying but we can not base our democratic solution on a unequal standing as that is not democracy, all we can do is get some guarantees to ensure our safety and well being and in years to come things usually work out for the better. |
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