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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:23 pm

An interesting analysis by Mike Whitney of what is most likely behind the ‘resignation’ of Mike Flynn, Trumps choice for NSA. A very logical assessment which ties in with events we are generally seeing happening with Trumps almost tragic attempts to form a US Government that will allow him to improve the US’s relations with Russia.

Blood in the Water: the Trump Revolution Ends in a Whimper - By Mike Whitney

"Counterpunch" - The Flynn fiasco is not about national security advisor Michael Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. It’s much deeper than that. It’s about Russia. It’s about Putin. It’s about the explosive rise of China and the world’s biggest free trade zone that will eventually stretch from Lisbon to Vladivostok. It’s about the one country in the world that is obstructing Washington’s plan for global domination. (Russia) And, it’s about the future; which country will be the key player in the world’s most prosperous and populous region, Asia.

That’s what’s at stake, and that’s what the Flynn controversy is really all about.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/17/blood-in-the-water-the-trump-revolution-ends-in-a-whimper/



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Russia has not profited from western sanctions.


Read it again, that is not what I said! My words were ‘...... The sanctions are hurting the EU far more than they have hurt Russia.’ That is not the same as saying they profited from sanctions! :roll:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Londonrake » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:36 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Read it again, that is not what I said! My words were ‘...... The sanctions are hurting the EU far more than they have hurt Russia.’ That is not the same as saying they profited from sanctions! :roll:


Sorry but you might need to read it again. Germany used to have the most exports to Russia. Did you read and understand their latest trade figures? Daaaahhhhh!
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:22 pm

miltiades wrote:" Dec 11, 2015 9:32 am"
From the very start of this thread I stated my views on Donald Trump.
" Let me state from the outset that I find his views despicable, undemocratic and absolute nonsense. The very vast majority of Muslims are no different from and other religious groups, yes there is an ideology that has been hijacked by some, ie the jihadists and other Islamic fanatic groups, yes they too, the jihadists praise their fictitious god, just as the Ku Klux Klan did as well as the Nazis. The vast majority of American Christians did not support KKK or indeed support the Nazis."
Barely a month as the President and surrounded by controversy one can not help but think that his days as POTUS may come to an abrupt end . I have agreed with his stated wish that the USA ought to have good relations with Russia, I still hold on to this belief that it is far better for the world to be at peace than at war. Frankly I do not see how this can be achieved when there are so many , not least McCaine who seems to constantly attacking the President's views on Russia.
I have held back in passing a judgement on President Trump preferring to wait and see.

As days go by with North Korea and Iran on the President's " notice" one can not help but wonder if something catastrophic may just be round the corner. Volatile times indeed , let us hope that the new President does not embark on an adventure that could be so dangerous for the entire world.

In the light of the absolute blunder by Trump in striking a Syrian air base and in turn attack the sovereignty of a UN nation member I bring this thread back to life as I believe that in the not too distant future humanity could face harrowing events. Trump can not now be trusted with a pen knife let alone the notorious code for unleashing weapons of mass destruction.
Let us hope that the world is not about to experience worst evens that either WW1 or 2.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:25 pm

Milti ..... you worry too much, Putin has a plan .......... :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNJla8WvoY
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:50 pm

...if there is a world war, blame it on Erdogan. I'd mark its starting the day of the coup, from that day there was no turning back, because i don't believe it happened as (read: for what) we are lead to believe.

Indeed Putin plays a bigger role than he should; another master at illusions that are bigger than "life". And Trump, imagine. (All assaults on Truth defined as Universal Principals)

...it is also possible that there is a Hero deep in Trump, not so deep in this political deep state that exists across the globe as one Class; it makes me laugh to hear the term, "deep state", to describe the workings of US politics, now.

What about China? All this hoopla for Syria; i ask what "deal" there?
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:55 am

" Donald Trump is risking "millions" of lives by deploying an aircraft carrier strike group near the Korean peninsula, a congressman has warned.

Democrat Ted Lieu of California also claimed the "risk of harm to US troops" had "significantly increased" in the last two days, citing the naval deployment and missile strikes on Syria following the alleged chemical attack in Idlib province earlier this week."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 74781.html

It is worrying to say the least, that President Trump could be the one to trigger a world catastrophe bigger than any other in history. I vehemently deplore his actions in Syria and his sudden U turn. Can he now be trusted ? I think not.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:14 am

miltiades wrote:" Donald Trump is risking "millions" of lives by deploying an aircraft carrier strike group near the Korean peninsula, a congressman has warned.

Democrat Ted Lieu of California also claimed the "risk of harm to US troops" had "significantly increased" in the last two days, citing the naval deployment and missile strikes on Syria following the alleged chemical attack in Idlib province earlier this week."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 74781.html

It is worrying to say the least, that President Trump could be the one to trigger a world catastrophe bigger than any other in history. I vehemently deplore his actions in Syria and his sudden U turn. Can he now be trusted ? I think not.


This is what happens when one Nation declares itself an 'exceptional and indispensable people'. The problem is we now have two imbeciles facing one another off. (and I am embarrassed to say I thought he was the lesser of two evils!) If the US provokes Kim ...... goodbye South Korea ...... and hello WWIII! :o :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

Will the Americans impeach him before he can do any more damage? Is the unprovoked attack on Syria enough? It will be interesting to see what Lavrof will say to Tillerson ....... maybe a '"Try anything stupid .... and a state of war will exist between the US and Russia." :?:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Londonrake » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:59 am

You can argue over the details and perpetrator but it's clear that there's nothing "alleged" about the chemical incident within Idlib. It happened.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:11 pm

Londonrake wrote:You can argue over the details and perpetrator but it's clear that there's nothing "alleged" about the chemical incident within Idlib. It happened.


I have not seen anyone, either on this forum or in general, question the occurrence of a chemical incident in Idlib. We have only the details provided by the terrorists to go on but obviously they are completely unbiased and completely reliable. Unfortunately there are no independent sources to confirm events so very little is known about the incident.

Most ‘thinking people’ are asking where the proof is and the silence from the US is deafening? Simply put ...... there is no evidence that Assad was responsible and any other explanation is of course disregarded, but why let a small detail like that stop a war that suits the US’s ambitions? You have your fall guy, who cares if he did it or not ..... he is winning the war against the US’s Islamic insurgents and that has to be stopped! :shock: :x

Paphitis was right again ..... they never did give up on regime change ..... and 'Assad must go' has always been the goal? :x

You obviously feel that providing evidence to support an illegal military intervention on a sovereign State, is of no consequence? Next time they try it the outcome could be a war with Russia because both they and Iran know they are on the US menu ! :roll:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:43 pm

miltiades wrote:" Dec 11, 2015 9:32 am"
From the very start of this thread I stated my views on Donald Trump.
" Let me state from the outset that I find his views despicable, undemocratic and absolute nonsense. The very vast majority of Muslims are no different from and other religious groups, yes there is an ideology that has been hijacked by some, ie the jihadists and other Islamic fanatic groups, yes they too, the jihadists praise their fictitious god, just as the Ku Klux Klan did as well as the Nazis. The vast majority of American Christians did not support KKK or indeed support the Nazis."
Barely a month as the President and surrounded by controversy one can not help but think that his days as POTUS may come to an abrupt end . I have agreed with his stated wish that the USA ought to have good relations with Russia, I still hold on to this belief that it is far better for the world to be at peace than at war. Frankly I do not see how this can be achieved when there are so many , not least McCaine who seems to constantly attacking the President's views on Russia.
I have held back in passing a judgement on President Trump preferring to wait and see.

As days go by with North Korea and Iran on the President's " notice" one can not help but wonder if something catastrophic may just be round the corner. Volatile times indeed , let us hope that the new President does not embark on an adventure that could be so dangerous for the entire world.


Prophetic words, And the Fart supporters trumpeted that Hilary would start WW III. ... with developments in Syria and now North Korea, I am not so sure they were talking about the right candidate.... I am not a supporter of Assad, ISIS, Putin or Trump, but this madness has the possibility to damage us all.
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