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Re: Nothing Turkish can ever be trusted!

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:09 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Sotos wrote:Canada has very little to do with Cyprus. Both the English and French speaking people are Christians of European decent and they do not have the kind of bloody history between them as we have with the Turks. And France is not controlling the French Canadians in the way that Turkey controls the TCs. And still the "BBF" in Canada might not survive for long... in last referendum 49.5% of Quebec's population voted on favor of Independence. In Cyprus such arrangement will not work at all...


In Cyprus you have a minority of 18% that wants equal political powers as the 82%majority. No where in the western world has this happened. In the Arab world places like Syria and Iraq the minority has the upper hand and we see the results...all Tc must go back to their maxalaes in Limassol and paphos and larnaka

in the eu. roc has the same political power as germany. germany has 90 million population. is that good enough. equal political power has been agreed asshole. once signed there is no taking backsies. you are not in primary school playground.
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Re: Nothing Turkish can ever be trusted!

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:38 pm

Sotos wrote:Canada has very little to do with Cyprus. Both the English and French speaking people are Christians of European decent and they do not have the kind of bloody history between them as we have with the Turks. And France is not controlling the French Canadians in the way that Turkey controls the TCs. And still the "BBF" in Canada might not survive for long... in last referendum 49.5% of Quebec's population voted on favor of Independence. In Cyprus such arrangement will not work at all...


Cyprus was (and may be) more socialised than Canada, as people, as a People. Cypriots were Great Cooperators even before Canada existed. Canada has grown, Canada, being Bicommunal, and, being multi-cultural, can welcome 25,000 Syrians in 3 months because Canadians defend each other, they respect the Rule of Law, they respect the fact that in defending their Freedom, and the Universal Principals it is based on, their greatest strength is their diversity (and it is not the first time that Canada has reacted to current events in the same way). Canada is a great country, Cyprus has the same opportunity at the crossroad to three continents with the same intentions. Although i will grant you that the less than 10% of Canada, who represent perhaps 24% of Quebec, need (and needed) no help from France, unlike the minority of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus, they, not France, were able to establish themselves across the whole North American continent, before their demise under British rule and until Canada became a country itself.

The English and the French do have a bloody History between them, and their War (read: WW I), with Germany led them to the conclusion that war amongst themselves was Ignorance because enemies like Hunger, and Disease were better places to apply Hatred fruitfully (Lest We Forget). (also something to think about)

Sotos, (on a personal note) my grandmother's neighbour was Turkish and Muslim, the same family for over 150 years, so i would like to say that i get your points, but i must say that i come from a different perspective.

You may suggest that nearly half voted for a question, in Quebec, the fact remains, today if they were to have the same referendum, far less would vote yes because, as a Provincial Government, "they" only demonstrated (and continue to demonstrate) nothing more than the opposition, in terms of encouraging the qualities their electors as a whole need, to promote their prosperity.

Interestingly, that while Canada and Cyprus are very different, both held referendums for Constitutional Reform which failed, neither fell apart. More importantly, is the treatment of minorities, as you say. It is the equal representation for Rights as Minorities which is secured by a State, where Nations must act in kind. In Cyprus, a set of Cypriot Constituencies may allow for this condition, because beyond "them", is the State where Cypriots have as a choice, not their pleasure as Persons, through self-representation, but their convictions as Individuals.

...seriously, what about the Communal Chamber, speaking of Constitutional Reform? Can you tell me why it was so heinous?
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