The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Feel free to talk about anything that you want.

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:35 pm

Sotos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:It is pretty obvious to me that this was a misprint that was rapidly corrected and an apology was also issued. This map most certainly does not normally appear in Turkish school textbooks. If you wish to believe otherwise, do so. I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year.


Dude, this is not a typo. The ONLY way that image could exist is if somebody intentionally created it. Not only that but it was allowed to pass from editing, printing and distribution. Do you think that such thing could have happened if somebody had photoshoped an image of Ataturk and placed a huge piece of shit on his head?


Sorry but I have to agree with Tim.

As much as I would love a good opportunity to bash on Turkey, I am not convinced it was deliberate.

The only think you say that is correct is that this was intentional and instigated by some insiders but there is no evidence that this material was distributed to schools and sanctioned by the Turkish Education authorities.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 20997
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:24 pm

I have to agree with Sotos on this one, that it was intentional and the fact that the Turkish authorities did not say anything about it until Bulgaria raised a stink, and only after it became public, then the Turkish authorities had no choice but make an apology and then blame some "boogeyman" for the error. Surely someone must have seen this in Turkey and did nothing before Bulgaria said something, NO? :roll:
User avatar
Kikapu
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 13541
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:22 pm

Other interesting finds from Turkish history textbooks

source: http://www.herkulmillas.com/en/hm-artic ... urkey-.pdf

Archaeological excavations and research in Central Asia have shown that the oldest civilization
in our world was the creation of the Turks . . . Turks from Central Asia migrated to various parts
of the world and helped the natives who still lived in the Paleolithic Age to move on into the
Neolithic Age. They learned from the Turks how to cultivate and how to work metals. In these
new countries the Turks made further advances, building big cities and founding strong states.
Important centres of civilization were thus created in Mesopotamia, in Anatolia, in Syria and
around the Aegean Sea. (T3, p. 25.)


In 1200 BC barbaric tribes . . . invaded the region which is called Greece today. In doing so they
devastated the region and pitilessly killed the aboriginals. The Romans called these unknown
tribes 'Greeks'. (Tl, p. 191.)


intermixed with other tribes which came from Anatolia, thus forming a cross-breed. Then they
were mixed with the Macedonians, the Romans, the Slavs and the Albanians. Therefore the
Greeks of today have nothing in common with the ancient Greeks but a common language and
some customs. (T2, p. 15.)


In 1821 'most of the Turks who lived in Peloponnese and on the islands, were killed by the
Greeks - forty-five to fifty thousand died'. (T2 , p. 64.) During the Turkish War of Liberation 'the
Greek army killed civilians without hesitation, women and children included, and set fire to
villages and towns'. (T2, p. 99.) The 'historians' record that in 1821 'the Greeks showed by their actions that
they are capable of killing without mercy even the babes in their cradles'
. (T2, p. 64.)


Most of the Aegean Islands were given to Greece by the Great Powers. When in fact these
islands are very close to our coasts. Previously the whole Aegean coast, the islands and
Greece were under Turkish rule. The islands of the Aegean sea were a part of the Ottoman
Empire sixty years ago. (Tl, p. 154.)


Greece attacked the Ottoman Empire (1912-13) when the empire was at its weakest. During
this war the aggressors acted with cruelty. They killed the Turks without pity . . . Until the Greeks appreciate our friendly offers we should be very wary and cautious with this neighbour. Turkish boys and girls must realize this. (T2,p. 152.)
DrCyprus
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1418
Joined: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:51 am

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:43 pm

The Turk is the most advanced, civilized and well educated specimen of the human race according to that^ text book.

The Greek, an invading savage..
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4274
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Cap » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:09 pm

There's a typo in that pink area.
Should read 'Republic of Cyprus'
User avatar
Cap
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6820
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:55 pm
Location: Cypriot Empire

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:11 pm

DrCyprus wrote:Other interesting finds from Turkish history textbooks

source: http://www.herkulmillas.com/en/hm-artic ... urkey-.pdf

Archaeological excavations and research in Central Asia have shown that the oldest civilization
in our world was the creation of the Turks . . . Turks from Central Asia migrated to various parts
of the world and helped the natives who still lived in the Paleolithic Age to move on into the
Neolithic Age. They learned from the Turks how to cultivate and how to work metals. In these
new countries the Turks made further advances, building big cities and founding strong states.
Important centres of civilization were thus created in Mesopotamia, in Anatolia, in Syria and
around the Aegean Sea. (T3, p. 25.)


In 1200 BC barbaric tribes . . . invaded the region which is called Greece today. In doing so they
devastated the region and pitilessly killed the aboriginals. The Romans called these unknown
tribes 'Greeks'. (Tl, p. 191.)


intermixed with other tribes which came from Anatolia, thus forming a cross-breed. Then they
were mixed with the Macedonians, the Romans, the Slavs and the Albanians. Therefore the
Greeks of today have nothing in common with the ancient Greeks but a common language and
some customs. (T2, p. 15.)


In 1821 'most of the Turks who lived in Peloponnese and on the islands, were killed by the
Greeks - forty-five to fifty thousand died'. (T2 , p. 64.) During the Turkish War of Liberation 'the
Greek army killed civilians without hesitation, women and children included, and set fire to
villages and towns'. (T2, p. 99.) The 'historians' record that in 1821 'the Greeks showed by their actions that
they are capable of killing without mercy even the babes in their cradles'
. (T2, p. 64.)


Most of the Aegean Islands were given to Greece by the Great Powers. When in fact these
islands are very close to our coasts. Previously the whole Aegean coast, the islands and
Greece were under Turkish rule. The islands of the Aegean sea were a part of the Ottoman
Empire sixty years ago. (Tl, p. 154.)


Greece attacked the Ottoman Empire (1912-13) when the empire was at its weakest. During
this war the aggressors acted with cruelty. They killed the Turks without pity . . . Until the Greeks appreciate our friendly offers we should be very wary and cautious with this neighbour. Turkish boys and girls must realize this. (T2,p. 152.)


I notice that you are very selective in what you quote from that article, which actually sets out, with copious examples, to show how school textbooks in both Turkey and Greece condition people in those countries to hate each other.

Has it never occurred to you that when you look at this Turkish nationalistic nonsense, you are actually looking in a mirror and seeing how the fundamentalist Greek nationalist claptrap that fills this forum appears to an outsider?
User avatar
Tim Drayton
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 8226
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:32 am
Location: Limassol/Lemesos

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I notice that you are very selective in what you quote from that article,


Why do you have to excuse the scandalous revisionist agenda of Turkey?

If you have schoolbooks from Greece or Cyprus that depict deliberate erroneous geography or history, let's see it. But stop supporting crimes.
User avatar
GreekIslandGirl
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 8959
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:03 am

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby B25 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:35 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I notice that you are very selective in what you quote from that article,


Why do you have to excuse the scandalous revisionist agenda of Turkey?

If you have schoolbooks from Greece or Cyprus that depict deliberate erroneous geography or history, let's see it. But stop supporting crimes.


He can't help it, after all he makes his living from the Turks.
User avatar
B25
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6078
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:03 pm
Location: ** Classified **

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:38 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I notice that you are very selective in what you quote from that article,


Why do you have to excuse the scandalous revisionist agenda of Turkey?

If you have schoolbooks from Greece or Cyprus that depict deliberate erroneous geography or history, let's see it. But stop supporting crimes.


Lets see it Tim.

Where is the claptrap in the Greek Books?
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4274
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: Turkey "Apologises" for School Map -Blast from the Past-

Postby Sotos » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:54 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I notice that you are very selective in what you quote from that article, which actually sets out, with copious examples, to show how school textbooks in both Turkey and Greece condition people in those countries to hate each other.

Has it never occurred to you that when you look at this Turkish nationalistic nonsense, you are actually looking in a mirror and seeing how the fundamentalist Greek nationalist claptrap that fills this forum appears to an outsider?


What about the bit about the Turks bringing civilization to Mesopotamia and Syria? That has nothing to do with Greece. The point is not that the Greeks would say nothing negative about the Turks. The point is that the map that was posted was not just a random mistake but part of an agenda of the Turkish education ministry.
User avatar
Sotos
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 10688
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:50 am

PreviousNext

Return to General Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest