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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby Nikitas » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:17 pm

If our politicians were not so psychologically conservative tight assed humorless sons of bitches they would have called the partition bluff a long time ago. Simply by publicly announcing their readiness to negotiate it. Take the inititiative and publish the territorial map the RoC would recognise as the basis of partition and inform the ambassadors of the major nations of this intent.

Then they could sit back and watch them all rush to stave off partition. The Turks would be heading the race. The TCs would be close second. The last thing they want is a truly independent GREEK state to their south. The British would panic because the day of settlement re their SBAs would finally arrive, no more games about witholding rents pending a solution etc, the only landlord they would have to deal with would be the totally GC controlled RoC.

In the event of partition all passports held by TCs would be cancelled and automatically substituted with TC state passports. That would mean automatic cancellation of residence rights in the EU, applications for residence permits, hassles that independence brings with it. No more pensions paid by the RoC to non contributors etc.

Yes but the conseuquences some say, losing the occupied territories, no hope of return. Well that cuts both ways. We lose our rights to 20 per cent, they lose theirs on 80 per cent of the island, and that is a lot better than what has been going on for 40 years. As for BBF, anyone who thinks it is not partition is dreaming. So if we are going to have partition we might as well have it cleanly and on our terms rather than have Turkey via its local agents have a hand in conrtolling the whole island.

How about the loss of patrimony etc in the north. Again, if they efface our cultural heritage in the north, they get paid via the same token in the south. They want to retain their cultural monuments in the south, they have to offer the same facility in the north. And that is exactly how it will be under BBF, a quid pro quo regardless of what the solution wallahs like to tattle.

Those that lament territorial loss forget the huge gain that will follow partition and the full unequivocal control of the EEZ which is several times the size of the land of Cyprus. As islanders we should not be limiting our perception to the land. The sea is just as important. From that point of view partition is a territorial gain which we will forego in the event of BBF.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby B25 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:47 pm

Nikitas wrote:If our politicians were not so psychologically conservative tight assed humorless sons of bitches they would have called the partition bluff a long time ago. Simply by publicly announcing their readiness to negotiate it. Take the inititiative and publish the territorial map the RoC would recognise as the basis of partition and inform the ambassadors of the major nations of this intent.

Then they could sit back and watch them all rush to stave off partition. The Turks would be heading the race. The TCs would be close second. The last thing they want is a truly independent GREEK state to their south. The British would panic because the day of settlement re their SBAs would finally arrive, no more games about witholding rents pending a solution etc, the only landlord they would have to deal with would be the totally GC controlled RoC.

In the event of partition all passports held by TCs would be cancelled and automatically substituted with TC state passports. That would mean automatic cancellation of residence rights in the EU, applications for residence permits, hassles that independence brings with it. No more pensions paid by the RoC to non contributors etc.

Yes but the conseuquences some say, losing the occupied territories, no hope of return. Well that cuts both ways. We lose our rights to 20 per cent, they lose theirs on 80 per cent of the island, and that is a lot better than what has been going on for 40 years. As for BBF, anyone who thinks it is not partition is dreaming. So if we are going to have partition we might as well have it cleanly and on our terms rather than have Turkey via its local agents have a hand in conrtolling the whole island.

How about the loss of patrimony etc in the north. Again, if they efface our cultural heritage in the north, they get paid via the same token in the south. They want to retain their cultural monuments in the south, they have to offer the same facility in the north. And that is exactly how it will be under BBF, a quid pro quo regardless of what the solution wallahs like to tattle.

Those that lament territorial loss forget the huge gain that will follow partition and the full unequivocal control of the EEZ which is several times the size of the land of Cyprus. As islanders we should not be limiting our perception to the land. The sea is just as important. From that point of view partition is a territorial gain which we will forego in the event of BBF.


Nikita, please send your ideas to some idiot GC politician, because it seems to me they are about to sell us down the swannie.

Keeps 'em coming mate. Kala Xristougenna.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:43 pm

I fully support Nikitas' post.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:11 pm

Nikitas wrote:If our politicians were not so psychologically conservative tight assed humorless sons of bitches they would have called the partition bluff a long time ago. Simply by publicly announcing their readiness to negotiate it. Take the inititiative and publish the territorial map the RoC would recognise as the basis of partition and inform the ambassadors of the major nations of this intent.

Then they could sit back and watch them all rush to stave off partition. The Turks would be heading the race. The TCs would be close second. The last thing they want is a truly independent GREEK state to their south. The British would panic because the day of settlement re their SBAs would finally arrive, no more games about witholding rents pending a solution etc, the only landlord they would have to deal with would be the totally GC controlled RoC.

In the event of partition all passports held by TCs would be cancelled and automatically substituted with TC state passports. That would mean automatic cancellation of residence rights in the EU, applications for residence permits, hassles that independence brings with it. No more pensions paid by the RoC to non contributors etc.

Yes but the conseuquences some say, losing the occupied territories, no hope of return. Well that cuts both ways. We lose our rights to 20 per cent, they lose theirs on 80 per cent of the island, and that is a lot better than what has been going on for 40 years. As for BBF, anyone who thinks it is not partition is dreaming. So if we are going to have partition we might as well have it cleanly and on our terms rather than have Turkey via its local agents have a hand in conrtolling the whole island.

How about the loss of patrimony etc in the north. Again, if they efface our cultural heritage in the north, they get paid via the same token in the south. They want to retain their cultural monuments in the south, they have to offer the same facility in the north. And that is exactly how it will be under BBF, a quid pro quo regardless of what the solution wallahs like to tattle.

Those that lament territorial loss forget the huge gain that will follow partition and the full unequivocal control of the EEZ which is several times the size of the land of Cyprus. As islanders we should not be limiting our perception to the land. The sea is just as important. From that point of view partition is a territorial gain which we will forego in the event of BBF.

20 % your arse boy. if there is going to be partition the borders will remain where they are and you will take the gas. cant say fairer than that.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:29 pm

Lordo wrote:20 % your arse boy. if there is going to be partition the borders will remain where they are and you will take the gas. cant say fairer than that.


Ok 18%.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:11 am

DrCyprus wrote:
Lordo wrote:20 % your arse boy. if there is going to be partition the borders will remain where they are and you will take the gas. cant say fairer than that.


Ok 18%.

not are you stupid you are arrogant and ignorant with it. dream on boy.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:50 am

Lordo wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:
Lordo wrote:20 % your arse boy. if there is going to be partition the borders will remain where they are and you will take the gas. cant say fairer than that.


Ok 18%.

not are you stupid you are arrogant and ignorant with it. dream on boy.


17% and going down. Take it or leave it.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:23 am

thanks but no thanks

we'll leave it shall we at ....
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at 37.5%

that will do nicely.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby DrCyprus » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:41 am

Lordo wrote:thanks but no thanks

we'll leave it shall we at ....
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at 37.5%

that will do nicely.


0% Time to pack your bags back to Turkey.
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Re: Observers Suggest Partition!

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:18 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Lordo wrote:thanks but no thanks

we'll leave it shall we at ....
...
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at 37.5%

that will do nicely.


0% Time to pack your bags back to Turkey.

you have the mentality of a 5 year old. you will get fuck all out of the 37.5% with that mentality. however akinci is a kind man and is willing to give back 10% and keep 27.5%. refuse that and lets see what happens.
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