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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Sotos » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:14 pm

The second point could be a federation but a very different one from the one negotiated now.... but the possibility of that is also very low. I see the status quo continuing for many more years.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:11 am

Sotos wrote:The second point could be a federation but a very different one from the one negotiated now.... but the possibility of that is also very low. I see the status quo continuing for many more years.

thats cause you are as thick as shit. even anastasiades has told you the staus quo cannot continue. are you def sonny
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Maximus » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:21 am

Over a long enough time frame, the first option (100% liberation of the north) has a 100% probability of coming to pass.

Why am I so confident about this speculation?

Many invaders have come to Cyprus in the past and all of them left. The GC's are also in a position today, probably for the first time in history where they are governing themselves. Regardless of the fact that the northern third of the island is occupied by Turkey.

What is the probability for the TC's getting their preferred outcome?

Over a long enough time frame, the probability of even their existence is reduced to zero.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:51 am

Lordo wrote:
Sotos wrote:The second point could be a federation but a very different one from the one negotiated now.... but the possibility of that is also very low. I see the status quo continuing for many more years.

thats cause you are as thick as shit. even anastasiades has told you the staus quo cannot continue. are you def sonny


No he is not.

There is no way or reason for any GC to betray their homeland and relinquish any control over to Turkey.

The only option is 1 or proper dejure Federation in all its true meaning.

You are stupid for thinking Federation is not an option for you.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:54 pm

Sotos wrote:The second point could be a federation but a very different one from the one negotiated now.... but the possibility of that is also very low. I see the status quo continuing for many more years.


There's no way a federation could work in Cyprus..constituent states, even in a very strong federal government, have to be willing participants, otherwise the state will legislate itself back to where it wants to be...
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:19 pm

The best option is definitely the status quo until liberation is possible regardless of how long it takes.

I think we’ve all seen enough Turkishness lately to know that we don’t want any of it in our lives.

For me Turkey’s atrocities both at home and against Syria were the final nail in the coffin so I don’t want to mix with Ottoman trash under any circumstances regardless of which label they conceal themselves under.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:13 pm

...there is no case to be found either in Europe or Asia or Africa in which the establishment of Turkish rule in any country has not been followed by a diminution of material prosperity, and a fall in the level of culture; nor is there any case to be found in which the withdrawal of Turkish rule has not been followed by a growth in material prosperity and a rise in the level of culture.

Neither among the Christians of Europe nor among the Moslems of Syria, Arabia and Africa, has the Turk done other than destroy wherever he has conquered.” ....
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:13 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:...there is no case to be found either in Europe or Asia or Africa in which the establishment of Turkish rule in any country has not been followed by a diminution of material prosperity, and a fall in the level of culture; nor is there any case to be found in which the withdrawal of Turkish rule has not been followed by a growth in material prosperity and a rise in the level of culture.

Neither among the Christians of Europe nor among the Moslems of Syria, Arabia and Africa, has the Turk done other than destroy wherever he has conquered.” ....

thats a lot of venom boy all in one post. get some help for your sake.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby famagusta1 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:16 pm

I think Cyprus will be returned to the rightful owners sooner than you think, with their prime-minister showing such signs of weakness recently. There had never been a time in the past where their PM would visit so willingly and where there would be a population so desperate due to their inability to control their out of control spending, until now.

I don't think it is right to gloat about peoples suffering under any circumstances but you cannot help but feel like the saying "what goes around comes around" is holding very true at this time with both Greece and South Cyprus essentially ruined by their own greed. It is safe to say that the GCs and Greeks are feeling very humbled by the issues they face financially and are most certainly ready to accept that Cyprus is just one Island too many, and too far away, to try to claim as their own.

I say quite sincerely that I wish them the best of luck in trying to bring their spending under control and reduce the rampant crime levels and unemployment they are facing currently.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:33 pm

famagusta1 wrote:I think Cyprus will be returned to the rightful owners sooner than you think, with their prime-minister showing such signs of weakness recently. There had never been a time in the past where their PM would visit so willingly and where there would be a population so desperate due to their inability to control their out of control spending, until now.

I don't think it is right to gloat about peoples suffering under any circumstances but you cannot help but feel like the saying "what goes around comes around" is holding very true at this time with both Greece and South Cyprus essentially ruined by their own greed. It is safe to say that the GCs and Greeks are feeling very humbled by the issues they face financially and are most certainly ready to accept that Cyprus is just one Island too many, and too far away, to try to claim as their own.

I say quite sincerely that I wish them the best of luck in trying to bring their spending under control and reduce the rampant crime levels and unemployment they are facing currently.


The Turks were never and will never be the rightful owners of anything other than eastern Asian steppes. It's time for you to wake up to this reality and start fleeing back to the lands beyond Baku and Astana.
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