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The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby MrH » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:44 am

Following the July suggestion by both Cypriot leaders to use the following naming convention for a new Cyprus - "The United States of Cyprus" as follows, it appears that President Akinci has informed the Turkish Cypriot camp [as early as this week] that "of the two names that were considered, The Federal Republic of Cyprus and the United States of Cyprus, the one that looks more likely is the latter".

http://www.sigmalive.com/en/news/politics/132813/anastasiades-the-name-i-want-is-united-states-of-cyprus

He pinned this due to two fundamental reasons, which his negotiating have said falls in line with the swaying of the Political and Government "balancing" of powers. In simple words, by having the "United States of Cyprus", the concerns amplified by the Turkish Cypriot camp of its "Guarantees and Securities as an equal entity" would be envisaged from the very naming of the Country's political structure. By referring to Cyprus' official Government name as the "United States of Cyprus" would imply that the new Constitution and it's Two Constituent States are based on a "Founding" agreement, and one that is indivisible. In short, One can not over rule the other and one can not act alone as part of the "United State of Cyprus" constitution. This, will settle the "Guarantees" requirement of the Turkish camp.

Also, it has been agreed that the Federal government of these "United" Constituent States will safeguard the rights and responsibilities of state [equal governments] and of the states themselves in relationship to the Central federal government of the "United States of Cyprus".

Akinci's top negotiator said that for the first time we are actually discussing, with agreement, all aspects of the Cyprus issue with a Greek Cypriot that has the sole aim of finally agreeing to a true Federal government comprising of two politically equal, and working, entities.

Although I have been deeply pessimistic of the years in the belief that a solution can be compromised, Mr Nicos Anastasiades is showing signs of a true statesman.

Let's hope the GC hardline camp do not spoil his dream!
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Re: The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:51 pm

Let's hope the GC hardline camp do not spoil his dream!


Do Turks/Tc consider refugees as hardliners and extremists?
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Re: The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:27 pm

There will never be any unison with Ottomans no matter how many centuries they try.

In Cyprus we have a saying… “Men loarkazis horis don xenodoho”.

Which translates to… “Don’t count (on a room) without the hotelier (knowledge/agreement)”
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Re: The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby MrH » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:30 pm

by Get Real! » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:27 pm

There will never be any unison with Ottomans no matter how many centuries they try.

In Cyprus we have a saying… “Men loarkazis horis don xenodoho”.

Which translates to… “Don’t count (on a room) without the hotelier (knowledge/agreement)”


Then Mr Get Real! I would say that this entire Forum is a complete waste of time as there are two FACTS that are undesputed concerning the Cyprus issue; in terms of it's final outcome:

(1) There will never be a unitary Single Cyprus state under the name of "The Republic of Cyprus" headed by a Greek Cypriot Majority and a so called "Protected Turkish Cypriot Minority" unless Turkey becomes a full member of the EU first, and we know that will never happen.

(2) And, I'm now only guessing of [this second Fact] that the Greek Cypriots will never Vote "Yes" to a Federal formula with two Constituent states and the dissolving of the current "Republic of Cyprus".

....let's just call it a day then Get Real! and reside to our Parted States of today in Cyprus and submit to the fact that Britain will always maintain their Two huge soveriegn states on te island, the Turkish so called "settlers" will one day over populate all of the communities of the entire island with their current migration rate, and that the TRNC will be formally integrated as a Province of Turkey (when the EU gives Turkey the cold shoulder, and the Cyprus talks have once again failed)!

Thank you for knowing you - I will return to this forum after the establishment of the "Republic of Turkey and Northern Cyprus" has been declared, similarly to when the "United kingdon of Britain and Northern Ireland" was declared!

Never say never my friend.

Goodbye
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Re: The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:09 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Let's hope the GC hardline camp do not spoil his dream!


Do Turks/Tc consider refugees as hardliners and extremists?

you are a stupid old yank. who says all the refugees are of one persuasion politically. you really are thick as shit.
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Re: The "United States of Cyprus" - it is then!

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:47 pm

MrH wrote:
by Get Real! » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:27 pm

There will never be any unison with Ottomans no matter how many centuries they try.

In Cyprus we have a saying… “Men loarkazis horis don xenodoho”.

Which translates to… “Don’t count (on a room) without the hotelier (knowledge/agreement)”


Then Mr Get Real! I would say that this entire Forum is a complete waste of time as there are two FACTS that are undesputed concerning the Cyprus issue; in terms of it's final outcome:

(1) There will never be a unitary Single Cyprus state under the name of "The Republic of Cyprus" headed by a Greek Cypriot Majority and a so called "Protected Turkish Cypriot Minority" unless Turkey becomes a full member of the EU first, and we know that will never happen.

(2) And, I'm now only guessing of [this second Fact] that the Greek Cypriots will never Vote "Yes" to a Federal formula with two Constituent states and the dissolving of the current "Republic of Cyprus".

....let's just call it a day then Get Real! and reside to our Parted States of today in Cyprus and submit to the fact that Britain will always maintain their Two huge soveriegn states on te island, the Turkish so called "settlers" will one day over populate all of the communities of the entire island with their current migration rate, and that the TRNC will be formally integrated as a Province of Turkey (when the EU gives Turkey the cold shoulder, and the Cyprus talks have once again failed)!

Thank you for knowing you - I will return to this forum after the establishment of the "Republic of Turkey and Northern Cyprus" has been declared, similarly to when the "United kingdon of Britain and Northern Ireland" was declared!

Never say never my friend.

Goodbye

Never say goodbye, unless you plan to bugger off. :lol:
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