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[repulsewarrior]

(but i am repeating what Garavnoss said, in essence)

...some Universal Principals, despite our diversity, one God, for example.

[Paphitis]

Put up or fuck off. Where did I say that the islamists are representative of the vast majority of muslims. Where did I say that I hold ALL muslims responsible. The fact of the matter is that the islamists share the same religion as all muslims worldwide. A false religion followed by mostly third world nations. A religion that imposes ludicrous " fatwas" on its believers. An intolerable religion that refers to anyone who does not adhere to these utter nonsense as a non believer

I do not believe in ANY religion but I can tolerate those peaceful and tolerant religions.

Put up what you silly old fart?

What am I suppose to put up in order to prove to you that terrorists are only an insignificant minority out of the 1.5B Muslims you are so eager to defame through your intolerance, ignorance and sheer racism?

The IRA also shared the same religion. EOKA was also 100% Orthodox. The Drug Barrons invariably share 1 religion too.

[Paphitis]

All modern day religions developed in the dark ages, times when technology was practically non existent. Communications and science did NOT exist, and if they existed they were almost pre historic. Here we now are in the 21st century and we are obliged to accept mythologies created by ma, n and spread by generation into generation by word of mouth.

Religion is by far the most potent enemy of the human race.

When people are so mentally raped and carry out atrocious crimes against humanity edged on by a mythological ideology its time for the human race to challenge these ludicrous beliefs and bring peace on earth. For as long as people are driven by an ideology that is detrimental to the human race, wars and violence will thrive.

What on earth are these religious freaks think they are doing by storming a hotel, a mosque, a market place and killing anyone one around. What right do these barbarian savages have to take anyone's life whilst screaming out that their fictitious god is great!

Time for humanity to wake up and declare such beliefs archaic, false and dangerous.

I think you are mentally raped!

How anyone in the 21st century can have beliefs and ideals such as you has me gobsmacked and to think you bestow some-kind of humanity which you believe to possess is interesting to say the least.

Some people believe in God the world over including in countries like USA and Cyprus (2 of the top nations in terms of religiosity) which you yourself claim to be the best people in the world. It's non of your business really. People have the fundamental right to believe what they want. They can be Ancient resurrectionists for all I care.

[Paphitis]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

I'm Atheist and I can tell you one tangible benefit.

Control of the masses!

[Paphitis]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

The answer to your challenge [regardless of the respondents beliefs] is self evident.

You inquire as to what benefits religion has afforded humanity ?, the simple answer is "Humanity".

Seems like you have shot yourself in the foot again old chap !.

You are wrong. Religion doesn't have any caveats on "humanity"

Go to any Church and find some of the biggest twits among the congregation. Atheists and Agnostics can have a lot more humanity and tolerance too.

[miltiades]

Put up or fuck off. Where did I say that the islamists are representative of the vast majority of muslims. Where did I say that I hold ALL muslims responsible. The fact of the matter is that the islamists share the same religion as all muslims worldwide. A false religion followed by mostly third world nations. A religion that imposes ludicrous " fatwas" on its believers. An intolerable religion that refers to anyone who does not adhere to these utter nonsense as a non believer

I do not believe in ANY religion but I can tolerate those peaceful and tolerant religions.

Put up what you silly old fart?

What am I suppose to put up in order to prove to you that terrorists are only an insignificant minority out of the 1.5B Muslims you are so eager to defame through your intolerance, ignorance and sheer racism?

The IRA also shared the same religion. EOKA was also 100% Orthodox. The Drug Barrons invariably share 1 religion too.

Banding EOKA with the savages says a lot about your inability to fully comprehend the meaning of this thread. We are talking about " Islamists" NOT the entire muslim world. We are talking about savages blowing themselves up in public places, mosques, hotels, buses and everywhere else where their thirst of blood can be satisfied. The overwhelming majority of muslims condemn this barbarians calling them non muslims.

The reality is that these barbarians, the islamists, are continually engaged in massacres of complete strangers, innocent people not compatants. EOKA was engaged in a war against occupation, unlike these bastards who are engaged in a sick crusade against even their own people.

[Garavnoss]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

The answer to your challenge [regardless of the respondents beliefs] is self evident.

You inquire as to what benefits religion has afforded humanity ?, the simple answer is "Humanity".

Seems like you have shot yourself in the foot again old chap !.

You are wrong. Religion doesn't have any caveats on "humanity"

Go to any Church and find some of the biggest twits among the congregation. Atheists and Agnostics can have a lot more humanity and tolerance too.

Surely., The creation of Man [whether or not we be faithful to ANY belief] is firmly rooted in the accepted theory that God was the creator of us all.

Science may suggest otherwise [and they may be correct] BUT, notwithstanding contrary opinions, I think we should accept that there is justice in supposing that "Religion" [with the Almighty as the prime focus] must have afforded the tangible benefit of humanity.

[miltiades]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

The answer to your challenge [regardless of the respondents beliefs] is self evident.

You inquire as to what benefits religion has afforded humanity ?, the simple answer is "Humanity".

Seems like you have shot yourself in the foot again old chap !.

You are wrong. Religion doesn't have any caveats on "humanity"

Go to any Church and find some of the biggest twits among the congregation. Atheists and Agnostics can have a lot more humanity and tolerance too.

Surely., The creation of Man [whether or not we be faithful to ANY belief] is firmly rooted in the accepted theory that God was the creator of us all.

Science may suggest otherwise [and they may be correct] BUT, notwithstanding contrary opinions, I think we should accept that there is justice in supposing that "Religion" [with the Almighty as the prime focus] must have afforded the tangible benefit of humanity.

YES ? Religious wars, bigotry, divisions, intolerance, hatred, just a few ....tangible benefits humanity has derived from religion.

The ME gave the world its largest religions, take look at the birthplace of religious mythology, you may use logic instead of preconceived notions and ask your self this.
Would a creator, if existed, allow its people to suffer, children killed, burned, massacred ?

[Paphitis]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

The answer to your challenge [regardless of the respondents beliefs] is self evident.

You inquire as to what benefits religion has afforded humanity ?, the simple answer is "Humanity".

Seems like you have shot yourself in the foot again old chap !.

You are wrong. Religion doesn't have any caveats on "humanity"

Go to any Church and find some of the biggest twits among the congregation. Atheists and Agnostics can have a lot more humanity and tolerance too.

Surely., The creation of Man [whether or not we be faithful to ANY belief] is firmly rooted in the accepted theory that God was the creator of us all.

Science may suggest otherwise [and they may be correct] BUT, notwithstanding contrary opinions, I think we should accept that there is justice in supposing that "Religion" [with the Almighty as the prime focus] must have afforded the tangible benefit of humanity.

No not for everyone. There are millions of Atheist on this planet and most of them have just as much humanity as the so called religious.

You can also be religious and lack humanity, values, and morals and many live in a world of hypocrisy in contravention to the tenets of the supposed faith.

[Garavnoss]

I challenge any religious person to name just ONE tangible benefit that humanity has ever gained from religion. Do not mention hope and spiritual nonsense. Just a tangible real benefit. I can name thousands of real benefits that humanity has gained from science, can any religious person name just one.

The answer to your challenge [regardless of the respondents beliefs] is self evident.

You inquire as to what benefits religion has afforded humanity ?, the simple answer is "Humanity".

Seems like you have shot yourself in the foot again old chap !.

You are wrong. Religion doesn't have any caveats on "humanity"

Go to any Church and find some of the biggest twits among the congregation. Atheists and Agnostics can have a lot more humanity and tolerance too.

Surely., The creation of Man [whether or not we be faithful to ANY belief] is firmly rooted in the accepted theory that God was the creator of us all.

Science may suggest otherwise [and they may be correct] BUT, notwithstanding contrary opinions, I think we should accept that there is justice in supposing that "Religion" [with the Almighty as the prime focus] must have afforded the tangible benefit of humanity.

YES ? Religious wars, bigotry, divisions, intolerance, hatred, just a few ....tangible benefits humanity has derived from religion.

The ME gave the world its largest religions, take look at the birthplace of religious mythology, you may use logic instead of preconceived notions and ask your self this.
Would a creator, if existed, allow its people to suffer, children killed, burned, massacred ?

I think I may be able to answer your question regarding the intention of the creator and the allowances given to his creation.

A wise old man [my Father] offered an explanation when I asked him precisely the same question that you have posed, it is one that has to be thought about and, if considered in the correct frame of mind [and accepted as a probability] makes perfect sense.

"Imagine that the Good Lord is a shepherd and WE [his creation] are his sheep, whereas we may all look the same, we each have our own characters and act in accordance with our own moods/desires etc, sometimes to the dismay of others.

Some sheep are of a different colour BUT, all in all we are still sheep.

By our own misconduct, misjudgment, mismanagement we sometimes find ourselves in serious dispute and may even take the life of those that offend us, we may [through our own carelessness] neglect our health or develop unhealthy habits which result in our own destruction.

What does it matter to the Good Lord ?., he gave us life and possesses our souls, therefore, dead or alive, we still belong to him.

I personally think that such an explanation is quite good.., to a sceptic it should be acceptable and to a devout follower of ANY faith, it offers some kind of comfort to know that the Good Lord had a plan when he created us all.