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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:01 pm

...it's a pleasure to see Bookings.com make the effort to be credible as a vacation site. Sixteen, only sixteen out of more than a hundred hotels, qualified as Cypriot, suitable for their listings.

I am glad that there are these opportunities, there are some at least, better than none, not having the information, i doubt i could find it myself. When in Cyprus, i have the intention to visit them, knowing now where i might find refreshment, and rest, in Cyprus; rather than aiding and abetting a regime that remains a dangerous obstacle to any form of Freedom (and the Rule of Law) because it serves "Turks", and no one else.

...i don't get your reply STUD. What does it have to do with my comment, you quoted? GIG's comment is shocking perhaps, and controversial; everyone is entitled to their opinion, why carry it from topic to topic, seems like you have a grudge, that's all. What and who does it possibly benefit, i ask? Perhaps you can expand on your comment a bit; will you be active, take action, as i suggest, for Cyprus, for Cypriots? Or, is it traitorous, Cyprus is "Greek". Can we differentiate between "Greeks", and Greeks, is it not the same between Turks and "Turks"? Aren't "Greeks" and "Turks" the same? Are they the other half, as i like to call them, where the rest of us identify ourselves as Cypriots, whether the vast majority of us can be identified as Greek and Turkish, or not. I don't care really, (doubtful, like the rest of us, that i will be changing my mind, or anyone else's soon), just curious. Should we as Cypriots isolate "them" by the acts of our own lives not necessarily without "them", but most certainly though, more consciously for ourselves?
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:51 pm

What is he talking about in this video? :?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... o-leave-eu

Has Boris the Bodger really said he wants to take Britain out of the EU????? ........... What clever bumblings and mumblings .... He has got everyone putting words in his mouth that he doesn't seem to have uttered! :roll:

Why can't he speak clearly? Is he advocating leaving the EU or not?

"I will be advocating ... mumble ... or whatever the team is ... mumble ..."

BUT he doesn't say WHAT!
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:49 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:"I will be advocating ... mumble ... or whatever the team is ... mumble ..."

BUT he doesn't say WHAT!


He said he will be advocating 'vote leave'. Seemed pretty clear to me.
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby B25 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:53 pm

The only up side of the UK leaving the EU, is they can no longer tout for Turkey to join!! :)
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:05 pm

erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:"I will be advocating ... mumble ... or whatever the team is ... mumble ..."

BUT he doesn't say WHAT!


He said he will be advocating 'vote leave'. Seemed pretty clear to me.


Here's a rough transcript of the 30 second or so announcement. Would you check it for me and tell me where and when he actually says "vote leave" .... please.

"Er I’ve decided after a huge amount of heartache because I did not want to do anything ….I wanted …the last thing I wanted was to er go against er… David Cameron or the government … but after a great deal of heartache I don’t think there is anything else I can do I will be advocating er voting or whatever the the team is called .. I understand there are many of them .. I think that .. is basic … because I want a better deal for the people of this country… to save them money ...and to take back control… that’s really … I think er…what this is all about..."
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:27 pm

At 17-18 seconds.

To me he clearly says "I will be advocating, er, vote leave".

That also is compatible with the context of him saying he did not want to go against Cameron and the Government but. It has also been widely reported that he said he would be supporting the 'leave EU' campaigns. Still just because it is clear to me, makes logical sense and seems clear to vast amounts of the world's media as well, what does any of that matter compared to your assertion that he has not made clear what his view is. If you say he has not then I guess once again everyone else is wring and you are right. Nothing new there then.
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:38 pm

I don't think it's at all clear. Except, clearly unintelligible. :? No 'leave' is said at all, just some waving of hands at that point!

Why obfuscate something so significant?

I know the media have jumped on what he's supposed to have said, but who really cares for secondhand info if you can .... oh hang on .... you love supposition and putting words in the mouths of others, don't you! :lol:
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:51 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I don't think it's at all clear. Except, clearly unintelligible. :? No 'leave' is said at all, just some waving of hands at that point!

Why obfuscate something so significant?

I know the media have jumped on what he's supposed to have said, but who really cares for secondhand info if you can .... oh hang on .... you love supposition and putting words in the mouths of others, don't you! :lol:


That he says 'vote leave' is perfectly clear to me. That it was clear to the worlds media is also apparently the case. That such is also perfectly in context of what he said before is also apparent. So there is one person alone for whom what he said was not clear - that is you.
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:03 pm

It's not clear at all ... yes, we are left only to go by 'context'. Not a terribly trustworthy man at all ...maybe OK for a turk - but the UK can do better ...
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Re: Is Boris putting Londoners at risk?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:07 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:It's not clear at all ... yes, we are left only to go by 'context'. Not a terribly trustworthy man at all ...maybe OK for a turk - but the UK can do better ...


That it is not clear to YOU does not mean that it is not clear to anyone or everyone else.

For what it is worth even a machine transcription of the audio is able to pick out the word 'leave'

https://app.voicebase.com/autonotes/pri ... bJqX?vbt=0

Why not go ahead and order a human transcription if you really have any doubt. Only a few dollars.
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