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That's Iran dealt with .... who's next .. ISRAEL?

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:45 pm

Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:49 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x


There is a lot more chance now to tell Israel to shut it. Any hostile action by Israel towards Iran will not be tolerated.

The world has a much bigger problem than Israel or Iran. North Korea is the country which will unsettle peace and stability. These guys are the wild card.

Yes it is great news that relations with Iran are being normalized and that the embargoes will be lifted. Just goes to show what can be achieved with cooperation.

Now I wonder who was sold out? Wouldn't be Assad by any chance ahead of the peace summit?
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Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:52 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x


It has nothing to do with the excuses of nuclear capabilities.

Iran is IN because Turkey is OUT! :D
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Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:04 pm

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Robin Hood wrote:Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x


There is a lot more chance now to tell Israel to shut it. Any hostile action by Israel towards Iran will not be tolerated.

The world has a much bigger problem than Israel or Iran. North Korea is the country which will unsettle peace and stability. These guys are the wild card.

Yes it is great news that relations with Iran are being normalized and that the embargoes will be lifted. Just goes to show what can be achieved with cooperation.

Now I wonder who was sold out? Wouldn't be Assad by any chance ahead of the peace summit?


I basically agree with what you say and re North Korea, but I think that Netanyahu really is stupid enough to go it alone and he has threatened to do so. They claim the right to self defence and that includes a pre-emptive strike. The Israeli's would most likely lose a conventional war with Iran, through sheer weight of numbers, in which case they would IMO resort to the Samson option and use nukes once they saw they were going to lose!

However, I can't see that anybody has been sold out, they have come to an agreement! although it remains whether the US will stick to the agreement. Already the US has imposed new sanctions against Iran and I think this will happen every time Israel complains. :(
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Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:14 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x


It has nothing to do with the excuses of nuclear capabilities.

Iran is IN because Turkey is OUT! :D


I don't think it has anything to do with Turkey?

Both US and Israeli intelligence and the UN inspectors have never come up with a shred evidence that Iran, since the departure of the Shah, has had a nuclear programme. The accusations have been driven by Israel's paranoia over the lie that Iran wants to wipe them off the map. A statement that Khomenie never actually made and has proven to be an incorrect translation by the original source, I believe a US newspaper? :roll:
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Postby Cap » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:29 pm

I don't think you people understand Israel.
If the US backing ceases to exist, they will find it from somewhere else, if they can't, they will create it.

Israel will not simply go away.. ever.
Not in our lifetime.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:38 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Although most of the world seem to regard this settlement with the UN Nuclear Inspectors and the Iranians as being a great success and a step in the right direction, it is obvious that Netanyahu is less than impressed, as are several vocal US Senators and Congressmen.

Is it not time the UN applied the same yardstick to the State of Israel as has been applied to Iran for decades? The Israeli's are known to have a substantial arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the facilities to develop more advanced weapons in the future. But with the backing of the US have been excluded from any UN restrictions on their nuclear intentions and refuse to allow UN Inspectors access to their facilities and nuclear programme? :?:

Seems to me that Netanyahu's rhetoric is very hypocritical! :x


There is a lot more chance now to tell Israel to shut it. Any hostile action by Israel towards Iran will not be tolerated.

The world has a much bigger problem than Israel or Iran. North Korea is the country which will unsettle peace and stability. These guys are the wild card.

Yes it is great news that relations with Iran are being normalized and that the embargoes will be lifted. Just goes to show what can be achieved with cooperation.

Now I wonder who was sold out? Wouldn't be Assad by any chance ahead of the peace summit?


I basically agree with what you say and re North Korea, but I think that Netanyahu really is stupid enough to go it alone and he has threatened to do so. They claim the right to self defence and that includes a pre-emptive strike. The Israeli's would most likely lose a conventional war with Iran, through sheer weight of numbers, in which case they would IMO resort to the Samson option and use nukes once they saw they were going to lose!

However, I can't see that anybody has been sold out, they have come to an agreement! although it remains whether the US will stick to the agreement. Already the US has imposed new sanctions against Iran and I think this will happen every time Israel complains. :(


You under estimate the Israelis. I don't think they will lose a conventional war. They have a far better Air Force and can cause a lot of mayhem don't you worry about that. Israeli wouldn't invade Iran and Iran can't invade Israeli so numbers are irrelevant. The Arabs had sheer weight of numbers in 1967, but the IAF decimated those numbers and completely obliterated their forces on the 'Highway to Hell'.

All the rhetoric from Netanyahu is just for domestic consumption. If he stuffs up the arrangements between Iran and the world their well be a price to pay. There is nothing he would dare do with out the American tick of approval.

But right now there is NOTHING to pre-empt. Iran isn't going to risk its arrangements either to lift the embargoes.
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