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Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:14 am

Well that has to be the quickest Amnesty in international history.

Just hours after sanctions against Iran were abolished, it tested a Ballistic Missile. :lol:

America waited until 3 of its hostages were released, and once in safe custody, Obama announced the resumption of sanctions against Iran! :lol:

By crikey RH! Is the Iranian Government dumb or what?

Who do they plan to attack with these Ballistic Missiles?

The Iranians blamed the zionists! :lol:

Back to square one! :roll:

Well duh! :lol:

All at a time when the world would rather focus its attention on North korea, Iran had to do something so stupid and which defies all logic. Are they taking the piss? :lol:
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:33 am

maybe they want to use the technology for launching satellites?...or the US has exclusive on this as well...
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby CBBB » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:40 am

Paphitis wrote:Well that has to be the quickest Amnesty in international history.

Just hours after sanctions against Iran were abolished, it tested a Ballistic Missile. :lol:

America waited until 3 of its hostages were released, and once in safe custody, Obama announced the resumption of sanctions against Iran! :lol:

By crikey RH! Is the Iranian Government dumb or what?

Who do they plan to attack with these Ballistic Missiles?

The Iranians blamed the zionists! :lol:

Back to square one! :roll:

Well duh! :lol:

All at a time when the world would rather focus its attention on North korea, Iran had to do something so stupid and which defies all logic. Are they taking the piss? :lol:


At least get your story straight!!

They conducted a missle test last October and sanctions have only been imposed on 11 companies & individuals.

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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:45 am

CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Well that has to be the quickest Amnesty in international history.

Just hours after sanctions against Iran were abolished, it tested a Ballistic Missile. :lol:

America waited until 3 of its hostages were released, and once in safe custody, Obama announced the resumption of sanctions against Iran! :lol:

By crikey RH! Is the Iranian Government dumb or what?

Who do they plan to attack with these Ballistic Missiles?

The Iranians blamed the zionists! :lol:

Back to square one! :roll:

Well duh! :lol:

All at a time when the world would rather focus its attention on North korea, Iran had to do something so stupid and which defies all logic. Are they taking the piss? :lol:


At least get your story straight!!

They conducted a missle test last October and sanctions have only been imposed on 11 companies & individuals.

Looking for a job at the Sun?


I didn't know that. I just caught a quick news flash and didn't see the whole thing.

Well I am happy that I am wrong and that the sanctions are still withdrawn and that relations will improve. But when I heard about it, I was a bit shocked that sanctions can be introduced so quickly or a country would even consider testing a Ballistic Missile just hours after their withdrawal.
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:47 am

boomerang wrote:maybe they want to use the technology for launching satellites?...or the US has exclusive on this as well...


No of course not. They can launch as many satellites as they like. But they know the difference between such a rocket and a Ballistic Missile which can only carry a warhead.

If there are no sanctions, many countries will hire them instead of NASA and ESA because they would probably launch at half the cost which opens up the market to a lot of businesses and Governments.
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:36 pm

Nobody else has raised this obvious question, so I will!

WHY ARE THESE SANCTIONS IMPOSED on the say-so of just the USA?

Should this not be decided by a World Forum ....... let’s be naive and call it something impressive like The United Nations? Sounds like a good idea to me!

But then we have such a body already called the UN General Assembly, that represents ALL member nations but they seem absolutely completely powerless to make such decisions. So they elect a small body that is supposed to create these ‘resolutions’ called The UN Security Council, that is formed by GA members representing the governments of 15 nations on a rotating five year term.

This is what the UN Web site says:

The UN Security Council

Under the Charter, the Security Council has primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. It has 15 Members, and each Member has one vote. Under the Charter, all Member States are obligated to comply with Council decisions.

The Security Council takes the lead in determining the existence of a threat to the peace or act of aggression. It calls upon the parties to a dispute to settle it by peaceful means and recommends methods of adjustment or terms of settlement. In some cases, the Security Council can resort to imposing sanctions or even authorize the use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security.

The Security Council also recommends to the General Assembly the appointment of the Secretary-General and the admission of new Members to the United Nations. And, together with the General Assembly, it elects the judges of the International Court of Justice.



BUT that is just bullshit......... five of them are permanent and referred to as the ‘Big 5’. This big five all have the power of veto over all the other votes when a resolution is voted upon. The ‘Big 5’ are the USA, China, Russia, France and the UK. In effect the ‘Big 5’ call the tune, the council can spout all the hot air it wants but, at the end of the day there are only five votes that count and unless they ALL agree ........ it comes down to one vote! i.e. one nation member of the ‘Big 5’ can defeat any motion and therefore effectively run the show.

It would seem that the US has decided that they don’t need the UNSC to impose sanction’s ..... only The Exceptional Nation is required. So the UNSC is as ineffective as the GA.

The world is already run by the USA .........so why not let them have it? I'm fed up reading about all the wars they have started , all the nations they have bombed and all the misery they have imposed on billions of people! :( :( :cry:


I just wonder what would happen if the Chinese unilaterally declared the imposition of sanctions on Taiwan because they did comply with what China required of them? :roll:
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:51 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Nobody else has raised this obvious question, so I will!

WHY ARE THESE SANCTIONS IMPOSED on the say-so of just the USA?

Should this not be decided by a World Forum ....... let’s be naive and call it something impressive like The United Nations? Sounds like a good idea to me!

But then we have such a body already called the UN General Assembly, that represents ALL member nations but they seem absolutely completely powerless to make such decisions. So they elect a small body that is supposed to create these ‘resolutions’ called The UN Security Council, that is formed by GA members representing the governments of 15 nations on a rotating five year term.

This is what the UN Web site says:

The UN Security Council

Under the Charter, the Security Council has primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. It has 15 Members, and each Member has one vote. Under the Charter, all Member States are obligated to comply with Council decisions.

The Security Council takes the lead in determining the existence of a threat to the peace or act of aggression. It calls upon the parties to a dispute to settle it by peaceful means and recommends methods of adjustment or terms of settlement. In some cases, the Security Council can resort to imposing sanctions or even authorize the use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security.

The Security Council also recommends to the General Assembly the appointment of the Secretary-General and the admission of new Members to the United Nations. And, together with the General Assembly, it elects the judges of the International Court of Justice.



BUT that is just bullshit......... five of them are permanent and referred to as the ‘Big 5’. This big five all have the power of veto over all the other votes when a resolution is voted upon. The ‘Big 5’ are the USA, China, Russia, France and the UK. In effect the ‘Big 5’ call the tune, the council can spout all the hot air it wants but, at the end of the day there are only five votes that count and unless they ALL agree ........ it comes down to one vote! i.e. one nation member of the ‘Big 5’ can defeat any motion and therefore effectively run the show.

It would seem that the US has decided that they don’t need the UNSC to impose sanction’s ..... only The Exceptional Nation is required. So the UNSC is as ineffective as the GA.

The world is already run by the USA .........so why not let them have it? I'm fed up reading about all the wars they have started , all the nations they have bombed and all the misery they have imposed on billions of people! :( :( :cry:


I just wonder what would happen if the Chinese unilaterally declared the imposition of sanctions on Taiwan because they did comply with what China required of them? :roll:


The USA has a lot of influence and you can see that because they are able to influence China even to apply pressure on North Korea.

Don't worry about it. It was a false alarm. I misheard a news story that wasn't quite worded right as well as not paying very close attention to it and thought Iran fired a Missile hours after the lifting of the embargoes. I was quite shocked that they would do it and they haven't.

If the USA, and its allies apply sanction then that is quite enough to wreck their economy so they don't need to go through the UN. But it is not necessary. They only announced sanctions against 11 companies which makes things very difficult for those companies.
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:35 pm

As said the ban is on a few people and companies involved in developing ballistic missiles. That is ballistic, designed to cover thousands of kilometers, not tactical surface to surface like the scuds. Those targeted with the sanctions will be prevented from using the american banking system and they are nowhere near the scale of the sanctions just lifted.

There is a UN ban on Iran developing ballistic missile technology if the weapon is large enough to carry a nuclear warhead.

In the past Iran has paraded such missiles through the streets of Tehran decked with banners proclaiming "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" on their side in Arabic and Farsi but in English saying "Down with............. I think that reflects the way they think and do business.

It seems strangely insensitive of the Iranians to test such a missile in the closing stages of the other half of the weapon system sanctions being lifted. The hardline side of the regime I suspect making a point. Not that there seems to be much in the way of a softline.

7 Iranian prisoners in the US were released at the same time as the 4 American/Iranian ones and it was incidental to the lifting of the sanctions.

It seems like a lot of propaganda is being written by some people in this thread.
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:53 pm

Londonrake wrote:As said the ban is on a few people and companies involved in developing ballistic missiles. That is ballistic, designed to cover thousands of kilometers, not tactical surface to surface like the scuds. Those targeted with the sanctions will be prevented from using the american banking system and they are nowhere near the scale of the sanctions just lifted.

There is a UN ban on Iran developing ballistic missile technology if the weapon is large enough to carry a nuclear warhead.

In the past Iran has paraded such missiles through the streets of Tehran decked with banners proclaiming "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" on their side in Arabic and Farsi but in English saying "Down with............. I think that reflects the way they think and do business.

It seems strangely insensitive of the Iranians to test such a missile in the closing stages of the other half of the weapon system sanctions being lifted. The hardline side of the regime I suspect making a point. Not that there seems to be much in the way of a softline.

7 Iranian prisoners in the US were released at the same time as the 4 American/Iranian ones and it was incidental to the lifting of the sanctions.

It seems like a lot of propaganda is being written by some people in this thread.


Good post.

You can understand the sanctions when you put into context the Death to Israel and Death to America slogans.

These are provocations.

Let's hope Iran changes its tune now and the lifting of sanctions is not a big mistake.

Iran has plenty to gain and yet plenty to lose if they start with the same old hardline rhetoric.
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Re: Well that didn't last: Sanctions against Iran back ON!

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:As said the ban is on a few people and companies involved in developing ballistic missiles. That is ballistic, designed to cover thousands of kilometers, not tactical surface to surface like the scuds. Those targeted with the sanctions will be prevented from using the american banking system and they are nowhere near the scale of the sanctions just lifted.

There is a UN ban on Iran developing ballistic missile technology if the weapon is large enough to carry a nuclear warhead.

In the past Iran has paraded such missiles through the streets of Tehran decked with banners proclaiming "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" on their side in Arabic and Farsi but in English saying "Down with............. I think that reflects the way they think and do business.

It seems strangely insensitive of the Iranians to test such a missile in the closing stages of the other half of the weapon system sanctions being lifted. The hardline side of the regime I suspect making a point. Not that there seems to be much in the way of a softline.

7 Iranian prisoners in the US were released at the same time as the 4 American/Iranian ones and it was incidental to the lifting of the sanctions.

It seems like a lot of propaganda is being written by some people in this thread.


Good post.

You can understand the sanctions when you put into context the Death to Israel and Death to America slogans.

These are provocations.

Let's hope Iran changes its tune now and the lifting of sanctions is not a big mistake.

Iran has plenty to gain and yet plenty to lose if they start with the same old hardline rhetoric.


I just wonder what world reaction would be if Israel paraded ballistic missiles through the centre of Tel Aviv with "Death to Iran" on them. :shock:
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