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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:10 pm

erolz66 wrote:
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I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?


I didn't have time to watch the video... but tell me what time in the video that part is and I will tell you my opinion.


It is around 44:20 ish


They appear to be Greek but you can never be sure. They did have Orthodox icons in the bedroom.

There is no doubt many people in Greece are suffering with unemployment, poverty and no hope.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:13 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Fourth part about Exarhia was also inaccurate, that place was always the nest of Greek anarchists , and it was always like that - nothing really changed there because of the recent crisis.


Strange. My memory of that part of the program was they made quite a point about the area having a long history as being the 'centre' of Greek 'anarchist' movements and thought, going back far further than the recent crisis ?

I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?


Point is if he wanted to show how angry the Greek people are for the crisis he should do his search elsewhere, not at Exarhia where all the anarchists, drug addicts and dealers concentrate.I guess the guy who attacked the cameraman he should have been some known parasite wanted by the police.

The accent of those people living in shipping containers looked strange, probably they were Albanians or gypsies.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:18 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The accent of those people living in shipping containers looked strange, probably they were Albanians or gypsies.


Albanians is exactly what I thought too. They sound like they've been there probably several years.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:19 pm

erolz66 wrote:
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I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?


I didn't have time to watch the video... but tell me what time in the video that part is and I will tell you my opinion.


It is around 44:20 ish


I would have to agree with Pyro though that it is possible that they are Albanian or even Gypsy. But they gave the impression they are Orthodox. Doesn't mean much though.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:21 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Last time I visited the Greek islands some 10 years ago I actually felt VERY SAD.


Why Sad?

I completely adore the Greek Islands and I was there only 6 months ago.

I'm always happy when I go to Greece. Even in Athens I am happy.

Could easily ignore Cyprus and just go to Greece. And I will be going again soon for my Greek Koumbaro!

The place is paradise. It's a real pity there is high unemployment and people are not doing all that well, but despite that, Greeks are a very happy and charismatic people.

When it comes down to it, so many foreigners (Europeans) are very jealous of Greece. Greece has so much more than Western Europe and they don't like it one bit.


Because I could feel their misery, for which the vast majority of stupid tourists care less. :!:
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:24 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Last time I visited the Greek islands some 10 years ago I actually felt VERY SAD.


Why Sad?

I completely adore the Greek Islands and I was there only 6 months ago.

I'm always happy when I go to Greece. Even in Athens I am happy.

Could easily ignore Cyprus and just go to Greece. And I will be going again soon for my Greek Koumbaro!

The place is paradise. It's a real pity there is high unemployment and people are not doing all that well, but despite that, Greeks are a very happy and charismatic people.

When it comes down to it, so many foreigners (Europeans) are very jealous of Greece. Greece has so much more than Western Europe and they don't like it one bit.


Because I could feel their misery, for which the vast majority of stupid tourists care less. :!:


Well, I couldn't find much misery on the islands myself, and even during the height of the crisis when they were threatening Greece with expulsion from the EU, I still found most Greeks were very happy and extremely proud. I was in Greece in June/July. I only went to Cyprus for 7 days just to point out to you how much I rate Greece compared to Cyprus. I always prefer Greece and always will. The country is nicer (prettier) and the people are better in my opinion.

They are generally a very happy people. Greeks don't need an open invitation to show you their best qualities and they are number 1 at diaskedasi!

But yes, if you went looking for misery in Athens, then you will find it very easily. Even in the Centre you will find it. You will also find a lot of idiots, Albanians, criminals, drug pushers, prostitutes, illegal immigrants everywhere and the list goes on. A lot of stupid Anarchists too! this is the side of Greece I find very difficult to come to terms with.

I also found the vast majority of tourists to be very sympathetic to the Greeks. One example that sticks out, is I saw a German Tourist get off the same plane as me, and out the front of the terminal, he unfurled a huge banner saying to the Greeks to say OCHI to the EU and that he apologises for Germany's behavior as a German citizen.

I will never forget that one.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby erolz66 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:There are 2 countries which I say are absolutely the best in the world in terms of beauty, environment, and people.

One of them is Australia and the other is Greece.

Sure there are other good countries, but when I die, it has to be in Greece or Australia.


What a wondrous and lucky co-incidence for you that you are both then ;)
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:40 pm

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Paphitis wrote:There are 2 countries which I say are absolutely the best in the world in terms of beauty, environment, and people.

One of them is Australia and the other is Greece.

Sure there are other good countries, but when I die, it has to be in Greece or Australia.


What a wondrous and lucky co-incidence for you that you are both then ;)


Well, it's quite interesting that I have no family connection to Greece really, but I gravitate towards it.

It's a very difficult thing to describe in words in order to get you to understand, but Greece is a very special place. It soothes me and only Greece can do that for me and Australia too and I have been to a few countries. But sure, so many other great countries I could be happy in, but I get a different feeling altogether in Greece, and I've never to this day ever been capable to describe that magic adequately.
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Well, it's quite interesting that I have no family connection to Greece really, but I gravitate towards it.

It's a very difficult thing to describe in words in order to get you to understand, but Greece is a very special place. It soothes me and only Greece can do that for me and Australia too and I have been to a few countries. But sure, so many other great countries I could be happy in, but I get a different feeling altogether in Greece, and I've never to this day ever been capable to describe that magic adequately.


Perhaps you should know I have actually lived in Greece for 3 months.What you describe is identical with my initial impression as well. You need some time to realize what Greece is all about, and I tell you you end up to a very tense person. It might be different with you though, but I suggest you do spend some time there, before you make up your mind because initial impressions might be tricky.
In any case comparing the Greek people with the Cypriots I would say that on the average the Cypriots are more humane and more kind. That's on the AVERAGE. On the other hand a big portion of the mainland Greeks are scam, however there's also some say 25% who are people with hearts of gold and dignity that exceed the Cypriot equivalent by 10 times.
Btw my grandfather from my father's side was mainland Greek....
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Re: BBC programme about Greece

Postby Sotos » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:32 pm

The accent of those people living in shipping containers looked strange, probably they were Albanians or gypsies.

I agree... the accent was not native but other than that her Greek was good which would indicate that they live there for many years. If they are gypsy, Albanian or something else I am not sure... maybe Nikitas that lives in Greece can tell the difference.
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