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[erolz66]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... -episode-1

Greece with Simon Reeve

Greece with Simon Reeve - Episode 1
In the first episode of this two-part series, Simon Reeve travels from the islands of the Aegean to Greece's capital, Athens. To learn more about Greece and the Greeks, he meets an extraordinary cast of characters, from gun-toting priests to the last remaining sponge divers. Getting behind the picture postcard image of this beautiful country, he finds out how the Greeks are coming to terms with a seemingly endless crisis.

I found this interesting and worth watching, as someone who is not Greek. For some no doubt they will see it as 'anti Greek' propaganda, as it is not universally fawning of Greece. Personally I see it as one persons take on Greece that whilst generally sympathetic is not a whitewash of reality either. As I say I found it interesting.

If anyone would like to view it but is unable to get around the BBC's geo restrictions to online BBC content, drop me a PM and I am sure we can sort something out for you.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Saw a snippet and the bit I saw showed a couple living in a shipping container. I'm sure he said they were Greek but they didn't sound at all Greek (nor looked particularly Greek).

[Sotos]

Currently on youtube... but I don't know for how long it will last there:

[Paphitis]

Nice video from a great travel doco guy from the BBC!

he is right you know.

There are 2 countries which I say are absolutely the best in the world in terms of beauty, environment, and people.

One of them is Australia and the other is Greece.

Sure there are other good countries, but when I die, it has to be in Greece or Australia.

[Pyrpolizer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03gk743/greece-with-simon-reeve-episode-1

Greece with Simon Reeve

Greece with Simon Reeve - Episode 1
In the first episode of this two-part series, Simon Reeve travels from the islands of the Aegean to Greece's capital, Athens. To learn more about Greece and the Greeks, he meets an extraordinary cast of characters, from gun-toting priests to the last remaining sponge divers. Getting behind the picture postcard image of this beautiful country, he finds out how the Greeks are coming to terms with a seemingly endless crisis.

I found this interesting and worth watching, as someone who is not Greek. For some no doubt they will see it as 'anti Greek' propaganda, as it is not universally fawning of Greece. Personally I see it as one persons take on Greece that whilst generally sympathetic is not a whitewash of reality either. As I say I found it interesting.

If anyone would like to view it but is unable to get around the BBC's geo restrictions to online BBC content, drop me a PM and I am sure we can sort something out for you.

Not anti-Greek at all but it had a lot of flaws.
First part about the islanders revealed how difficult life is at the islands and how low the income of those people actually is.
Second part about Lesbos and the influx of refugees was very revealing imo. Basically it's an open borders situation, no Frontex no Greek authorities present anywhere...
Third part about Crete was just a bunch of impressive nonsense. Btw some stupid Cypriots thought of imitating of what seems to be a tradition in Crete by firing their shotguns at weddings here in Cyprus and they ended up in jail
Fourth part about Exarhia was also inaccurate, that place was always the nest of Greek anarchists , and it was always like that - nothing really changed there because of the recent crisis.
Last time I visited the Greek islands some 10 years ago I actually felt VERY SAD.

[Paphitis]

Last time I visited the Greek islands some 10 years ago I actually felt VERY SAD.

Why Sad?

I completely adore the Greek Islands and I was there only 6 months ago.

I'm always happy when I go to Greece. Even in Athens I am happy.

Could easily ignore Cyprus and just go to Greece. And I will be going again soon for my Greek Koumbaro!

The place is paradise. It's a real pity there is high unemployment and people are not doing all that well, but despite that, Greeks are a very happy and charismatic people.

When it comes down to it, so many foreigners (Europeans) are very jealous of Greece. Greece has so much more than Western Europe and they don't like it one bit.

[erolz66]

Fourth part about Exarhia was also inaccurate, that place was always the nest of Greek anarchists , and it was always like that - nothing really changed there because of the recent crisis.

Strange. My memory of that part of the program was they made quite a point about the area having a long history as being the 'centre' of Greek 'anarchist' movements and thought, going back far further than the recent crisis ?

I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?

[Paphitis]

Fourth part about Exarhia was also inaccurate, that place was always the nest of Greek anarchists , and it was always like that - nothing really changed there because of the recent crisis.

Strange. My memory of that part of the program was they made quite a point about the area having a long history as being the 'centre' of Greek 'anarchist' movements and thought, going back far further than the recent crisis ?

I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?

One of the bad things about Greece is that there are so many Anarchists. It has always been the case ever since the end of WW2.

You look at Greece's history throughout and it has always been turbulent. After WW2, Greeks were fighting among themselves. Over a million were killed. Back then, there were Greeks who wanted to hand the country over to the Soviet Union.

Then in the 60s there was a Coup, and political dissidents were incarcerated in their thousands. the Junta lasted until 1974. Even in times of peace, you see the most stupid and idiotic demonstrations by idiots throwing molotof at the police left right and centre. Often for no reason or not very much reason.

Even today, farmers are blocking all highway tollways just to cause maximum havoc and cause the Government to lose money because they feel hard done by.

I just wish Greeks were a little different and behaved differently and pulled together because Greece would be the best country in the world. But having said that, Greeks are the best people in the world socially. Only the Australians can match the Greeks. No one else!

I have no idea what the solution is for them. They need to take a chill pill and roll up their sleeves.

[Sotos]

I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?

I didn't have time to watch the video... but tell me what time in the video that part is and I will tell you my opinion.

[erolz66]

I am kind of curious as to if anyone with a better knowledge of Greek than me though the people in the section re using shipping containers as homes also thought they did not look or sound Greek ?

I didn't have time to watch the video... but tell me what time in the video that part is and I will tell you my opinion.

It is around 44:20 ish