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SHOULD THE UK STAY IN OR GO OUT OF THE EU

Poll ended at Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:01 pm
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STAY IN
5
50%
 
erolz66, miltiades, RichardB, skyvet, Tim Drayton
COME OUT
5
50%
 
GreekIslandGirl, Paphitis, Robin Hood, Sotos, Zenon33
 
Total votes : 10

Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:40 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Good on ya Cameron! :D

By the way , Cameron wants to stay in !! Plonker !


And he has set a date for Brexit. Mmmmmm go figure!

Cameron is a man of his word. He delivered! This goes well beyond what he wants and finally Brits will have their say.


YES, but, if the UK votes to exit the EU, then Cameron and the Conservatives are going to pay a heavy political price down the road when the economy takes a nosedive for all the reasons Erolz talked about earlier, because Cameron never wanted to leave the EU in the first place. He just wanted to blackmail the EU for concessions, which he appears to have gotten, but it may all be for nothing if the referendum goes against what he wants. Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it and won't be happy with it. Just imagine if the UK votes itself out of the EU and later on wants to get back in again. The EU will be bending the UK over really good before they let it back in again. Also, if the UK is out, then there goes Scotland from the UK for starters and maybe even Wales and NI. As for Turkey, they will be very unhappy for losing one of their strong advocates for their EU membership. Lets see what happens if UK votes to go out of the EU, and lets see how far the shit will fly off the fan!


I can only see a win win by leaving the EU Bureaucracy of technocrats dictating to Governments and people on how they should think and behave.

I couldn't think of anything worse, but I appreciate your opinion.

As for Turkey, if they know what's good for them, they would give the EU a very wide birth.

Look at Greece as the prime example.


It wasn't the EU that did Greece in, but was the EURO and for the fact that the Greeks were living way way beyond their means.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:20 am

Kikapu wrote:
It wasn't the EU that did Greece in, but was the EURO and for the fact that the Greeks were living way way beyond their means.


They keep saying "Greeks lived beyond their means"

I really want to know what they mean by that. Did every Greek buy a luxury 4WD or sedan. Do all Greeks have big huge houses with swimming pools, cinemas and Butler's kitchen?

Many Greeks actually still live in old clapped out stone village houses, which as far as I am concerned are great houses.

The entire EU, USA, China, UK, Japan, and Germany are living beyond their means on easy credit. That is the truth of the matter!
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby erolz66 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:14 pm

Paphitis wrote: They keep saying "Greeks lived beyond their means"


Greece, the nation, was living beyond it's means

Paphitis wrote:The entire EU, USA, China, UK, Japan, and Germany are living beyond their means on easy credit. That is the truth of the matter!


It becomes 'beyond your means' when you are no longer able to make repayments on the debt you have taken on. All these countries above have large amounts of national debt, but all are making the scheduled payments on that debt. As and when any of them become unable to do so, then they will living beyond their means.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby B25 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:25 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote: They keep saying "Greeks lived beyond their means"


Greece, the nation, was living beyond it's means

Paphitis wrote:The entire EU, USA, China, UK, Japan, and Germany are living beyond their means on easy credit. That is the truth of the matter!


It becomes 'beyond your means' when you are no longer able to make repayments on the debt you have taken on. All these countries above have large amounts of national debt, but all are making the scheduled payments on that debt. As and when any of them become unable to do so, then they will living beyond their means.


All the above countries print their own money so don't run out. Until that time in the future comes when it catches up to them.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:02 pm

if you count the number of people who are unemployed and retired in greace it is more than people who are in work. you have 50 year olds allowed to retire. that is the problem of greace and it aint going to get solved that easily.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:09 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote: They keep saying "Greeks lived beyond their means"


Greece, the nation, was living beyond it's means

Paphitis wrote:The entire EU, USA, China, UK, Japan, and Germany are living beyond their means on easy credit. That is the truth of the matter!


It becomes 'beyond your means' when you are no longer able to make repayments on the debt you have taken on. All these countries above have large amounts of national debt, but all are making the scheduled payments on that debt. As and when any of them become unable to do so, then they will living beyond their means.


Really? Just another typical and sad attempt to bash on a country that is down.

Maybe it lived beyond its means, but so is every other friggin country, so you can hardly just blame Greece which was set up and done over like a rissole, and no one was willing to offer any help. The other countries are allowed to print to maintain spending and grow the economy. But you can only do that up to a certain point before the chickens come home to roost and come home to roost they will, in every country. Financial Markets are like a ticking time bomb. TICK TOCK!

FUCK THE EU!


don't worry about the UK. I want GREXIT as well, so that Greeks can live in dignity!

The EU is doomed to failure. You can't have an EU when all member States are only in it for what they can get out of it and are unwilling to offer assistance to another State member of the union in need. That is not how you achieve Union.

Union is what you have between 52 States of the United States of America, or the 8 States and Territories of Australia. The EU is not like that and it will never be like that for as long as they shaft and destroy certain States because some Western Europeans don't want to pay a few dollars in tax to bail out a country that is about implode. One day, Germany and the UK will implode and they will be expecting countries like Greece to dig deep.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:34 pm

And just so that we are very clear, I don't mind a nice little union between Greece and the UK. The UK has not done anything to Greece and if anything, the Brits should be very proud of themselves for sticking it to the disgusting EU and for even supporting Greece. Its all the disgusting bureaucrats in Strasbourg I have an issue with.

Im rooting for the UK on this one.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:And just so that we are very clear, I don't mind a nice little union between Greece and the UK. The UK has not done anything to Greece and if anything, the Brits should be very proud of themselves for sticking it to the disgusting EU and for even supporting Greece. Its all the disgusting bureaucrats in Strasbourg I have an issue with.

Im rooting for the UK on this one.

uk objects to sending 20 pounds a week to a hungarian child as his father works in the uk and you think uk will in anyway help greace. dream on.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:47 pm

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And just so that we are very clear, I don't mind a nice little union between Greece and the UK. The UK has not done anything to Greece and if anything, the Brits should be very proud of themselves for sticking it to the disgusting EU and for even supporting Greece. Its all the disgusting bureaucrats in Strasbourg I have an issue with.

Im rooting for the UK on this one.

uk objects to sending 20 pounds a week to a hungarian child as his father works in the uk and you think uk will in anyway help greace. dream on.


Sorry but I find that difficult to believe that the UK would object to any such thing.

But that is not what I meant. Britain had a whole lot more respect for Greece that the Germans and Scandinavians did. The UK has done nothing to Greece, unlike the so called EU "partners" on the continent.

Greeks are a very proud people. You won't see them have their hands out begging for money. They have been through tougher situations fighting the NAZIs and fascist Ottoman Turks in order to kick them out of their country. Just like when in the glory days, every single Ottoman in Crete was driven into the sea and back to Turkey.

Ahh kakomiri mou! You don't know the mind of a Greek that's for sure.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And just so that we are very clear, I don't mind a nice little union between Greece and the UK. The UK has not done anything to Greece and if anything, the Brits should be very proud of themselves for sticking it to the disgusting EU and for even supporting Greece. Its all the disgusting bureaucrats in Strasbourg I have an issue with.

Im rooting for the UK on this one.

uk objects to sending 20 pounds a week to a hungarian child as his father works in the uk and you think uk will in anyway help greace. dream on.


Sorry but I find that difficult to believe that the UK would object to any such thing.

But that is not what I meant. Britain had a whole lot more respect for Greece that the Germans and Scandinavians did. The UK has done nothing to Greece, unlike the so called EU "partners" on the continent.

Greeks are a very proud people. You won't see them have their hounds out begging for money. They have been through tougher situations fighting the NAZIs and fascist Ottoman Turks in order to kick them out of their country.

may i suggest you read some news before posting gavole. what the hell were all the negotiations in the kast few weeks the kunteron was negotiating in the eu ffs
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