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SHOULD THE UK STAY IN OR GO OUT OF THE EU

Poll ended at Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:01 pm
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STAY IN
5
50%
 
erolz66, miltiades, RichardB, skyvet, Tim Drayton
COME OUT
5
50%
 
GreekIslandGirl, Paphitis, Robin Hood, Sotos, Zenon33
 
Total votes : 10

Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:00 am

I'm in a slight state of shock today as I was chatting with a group of Brits last night - about a dozen of them - and they were the sort I would have thought might instantly vote to stay in the EU as their jobs would be more fruitful if the UK stayed in the EU - or at least had free movement and migration.

But no. No instead decision to vote to stay in. :? The most anyone volunteered is that he hasn't heard all the pros and cons yet and will decide on the day.

Brits are notorious for not caring. For not voting. And for not revealing their "side".

We're not going to know one way or the other till 24th of June. That's my prediction. :P
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:23 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm in a slight state of shock today as I was chatting with a group of Brits last night - about a dozen of them - and they were the sort I would have thought might instantly vote to stay in the EU as their jobs would be more fruitful if the UK stayed in the EU - or at least had free movement and migration.

But no. No instead decision to vote to stay in. :? The most anyone volunteered is that he hasn't heard all the pros and cons yet and will decide on the day.

Brits are notorious for not caring. For not voting. And for not revealing their "side".

We're not going to know one way or the other till 24th of June. That's my prediction. :P

I will give you my prediction !!
IN vote close to 60% OUT below 40% .
As from today I shall be carrying out my poll in my store :lol:
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:27 am

There could also be a political tactical being play here by labour supporters, that is to vote for UK to exit the EU in order to give the conservatives a political black eye, by blaming them for gambling on UK's position within the EU. This would damage the conservatives chances of winning any elections in the foreseeable future, specially when labour party will then try to get the UK back in the EU, will be seen as the saviours of the country. If I was in charge of the labour party, I would most certainly take advantage of Cameron's gamble, by first threatening the EU that the UK would exit by giving the citizens a chance to vote in a referendum, and then do about face and now support for Britain to stay in the EU after the EU making concessions, but the referendum will go ahead all the same. Cameron is gambling on the conservatives gaining a lot of political capital out of this "game play", but there's also the flip side of the coin, and that is, it could backfire and kill off the conservative political party for a long time to come.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:45 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:There are many countries outside of the EU who are doing a roaring trade as far as business, development, and investment are concerned. Asia Pacific is where it's all at - South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, USA, Canada and Australia. It's their Century!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Britain is a powerful country, so if they can't tap into European and Asian markets then you're all stuffed!

The EU is not only about trade, other factors must be considered. The fact that since the end of WW2 Europe has had peace and relative stability. There have of course been a number of conflicts, Bosnia for instance, but not a world war. I beleive in a much stronger EU , it must survive and thrive for the sake of future generations. A strong EU is the future for Europe.


Peace and stability due to NATO!
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:46 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm in a slight state of shock today as I was chatting with a group of Brits last night - about a dozen of them - and they were the sort I would have thought might instantly vote to stay in the EU as their jobs would be more fruitful if the UK stayed in the EU - or at least had free movement and migration.

But no. No instead decision to vote to stay in. :? The most anyone volunteered is that he hasn't heard all the pros and cons yet and will decide on the day.

Brits are notorious for not caring. For not voting. And for not revealing their "side".

We're not going to know one way or the other till 24th of June. That's my prediction. :P


Don't worry, the tide is turning and Brits don't strike me as being silly but rather quite astute.

Free movement is only a benefit if you are willing to work in another EU country and Brits are probably the least likely to want to do so.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:48 am

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm in a slight state of shock today as I was chatting with a group of Brits last night - about a dozen of them - and they were the sort I would have thought might instantly vote to stay in the EU as their jobs would be more fruitful if the UK stayed in the EU - or at least had free movement and migration.

But no. No instead decision to vote to stay in. :? The most anyone volunteered is that he hasn't heard all the pros and cons yet and will decide on the day.

Brits are notorious for not caring. For not voting. And for not revealing their "side".

We're not going to know one way or the other till 24th of June. That's my prediction. :P


Don't worry, the tide is turning and Brits don't strike me as being silly but rather quite astute.

What is your predition on the outcome ?
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:54 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm in a slight state of shock today as I was chatting with a group of Brits last night - about a dozen of them - and they were the sort I would have thought might instantly vote to stay in the EU as their jobs would be more fruitful if the UK stayed in the EU - or at least had free movement and migration.

But no. No instead decision to vote to stay in. :? The most anyone volunteered is that he hasn't heard all the pros and cons yet and will decide on the day.

Brits are notorious for not caring. For not voting. And for not revealing their "side".

We're not going to know one way or the other till 24th of June. That's my prediction. :P


Don't worry, the tide is turning and Brits don't strike me as being silly but rather quite astute.

What is your predition on the outcome ?


I am not game to predict.

The only thing I am sure about is that the OPT OUT vote will be significant. Whether it is enough remains to be seen.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:04 am

Paphitis wrote:...

Free movement is only a benefit if you are willing to work in another EU country and Brits are probably the least likely to want to do so.


I think you will find you are wrong on that last point, and it actually happens that there are about the same number of British citizens living and working in other EU countries as there are citizens of other EU countries doing the same in Britain.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:07 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:...

Free movement is only a benefit if you are willing to work in another EU country and Brits are probably the least likely to want to do so.


I think you will find you are wrong on that last point, and it actually happens that there are about the same number of British citizens living and working in other EU countries as there are citizens of other EU countries doing the same in Britain.


Most are just retirees who have moved to Spain, Portugal, Greece, France or Cyprus.

Generally speaking, it is usually Britain that cops it, along with Germany.
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Re: UK REFERENDUM

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:08 am

Following the debate in the media, I am struck that there is one wing of the 'no camp' (such as Geoffrey Howe interviewed on BBC Radio 4's Today programme this morning) who are essentially arguing for a 'no' vote so that the UK can then re-approach the EU and strike a better deal. It is a kind of 'vote no to stay in' strategy.
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