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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:52 am

...impressive indeed, and he got the last word, too.

...thanks, GIG.
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:39 am



...pro EU.
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:37 pm

I have always rated Varoufakis a brilliant economist who has a real knowledge of the monetary and banking system but is too arrogant to be a politician. I rate Corbyn, although not an economist, in much the same way as Varoufakis as having more knowledge of the same things but not an a politician as he takes everything seriously. He does not have the theatrical capability of Cameron but has far more knowledge.

With one advising the other maybe, just maybe, between them they can expose the Bankers for the fraudsters and crooks they are and always have been ............. but they need a front man with charisma, that can get the message over......... but who? :roll: :?:
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby erolz66 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:46 pm

Robin Hood wrote: but is too arrogant to be a politician.


It is the burden of those who are both so often correct in their evaluations and able to eloquently explain why they are correct, to be labelled arrogant.

[stick tongue in cheek] I should know [remove tongue from cheek]

I think it is fairer to say 'he is too often correct and able to explain why, to be a politician' myself.

(PS @ repulsewarrior - thanks for that link - am half way through and it is great. Informative, thought provoking and just down right interesting - so thanks)
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:17 pm

Erolz66:
It is the burden of those who are both so often correct in their evaluations and able to eloquently explain why they are correct, to be labelled arrogant.

[stick tongue in cheek] I should know [remove tongue from cheek]

I have the same problem! :roll: :wink:

What really pi**es me off is being provably correct but having idiots who know nothing about a subject using mockery and sarcasm as their only tool. They don’t have enough knowledge to present a rebuttal or a reasoned response. :x
I think it is fairer to say 'he is too often correct and able to explain why, to be a politician' myself.

I agree with you. Maybe ‘arrogant’ was not the word I was looking for? :|
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby erolz66 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:40 pm

Robin Hood wrote:I have the same problem! :roll: :wink:


:)

Robin Hood wrote:What really pi**es me off is being provably correct but having idiots who know nothing about a subject using mockery and sarcasm as their only tool. They don’t have enough knowledge to present a rebuttal or a reasoned response. :x


I hear you brother (hope it is ok to refer to you as brother within this context ?). Oh how I hear you !
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:59 pm

I have just watched RW's Varoufakis interview.........

I could not help coming to the conclusion that Varoufakis makes a very good argument for STAYING in the EU! (and I voted for ‘out’) he put forward a very convincing and logical argument. If the ordinary UK citizen was to watch this programme, assuming he/she was informed enough of the monetary and political basics, Cameron would get his vote for staying ‘IN’ the EU but would do it on an honest appraisal rather than a distorted fear campaign. :o

It made me think again about ‘IN’ or ‘OUT’ on the basis of using people power to REFORM the way the European Union is run and you can only do that from being part of it ............... but then I am not besotted by the Kardashian’s or a fan of soap opera’s or the X-Factor. Maybe the population is in general too thick and disinterested for this? :roll:
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:29 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I have the same problem! :roll: :wink:


:)

Robin Hood wrote:What really pi**es me off is being provably correct but having idiots who know nothing about a subject using mockery and sarcasm as their only tool. They don’t have enough knowledge to present a rebuttal or a reasoned response. :x


I hear you brother (hope it is ok to refer to you as brother within this context ?). Oh how I hear you !



Oh give it a rest you sleazy underhanded bigot! You have managed to find some collective brotherhood to support your 'hurt' feelings! :roll: [vomit]
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:45 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I have the same problem! :roll: :wink:


:)

Robin Hood wrote:What really pi**es me off is being provably correct but having idiots who know nothing about a subject using mockery and sarcasm as their only tool. They don’t have enough knowledge to present a rebuttal or a reasoned response. :x


I hear you brother (hope it is ok to refer to you as brother within this context ?). Oh how I hear you !



Oh give it a rest you sleazy underhanded bigot! You have managed to find some collective brotherhood to support your 'hurt' feelings! :roll: [vomit]


Be fair he did say '.........within this context' ..... ..... Sister! :wink: :)
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Re: Yanis Varoufakis advising Labour

Postby erolz66 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:01 pm

Robin Hood wrote: Maybe the population is in general too thick and disinterested for this? :roll:


Personally I am very wary of the idea that populations are too thick. It is not like I am unable to see (at least partial) evidence to support it so much as to 'where it leads' and 'who benefits most' from it being widely believes. Chomsky has, imo, written some great stuff on this topic (and so many others besides of course) btw. The 'where it leads' problem for me is that if I really do believe it then I should in turn be an advocate of 'benevolent autocracy' rather than 'democracy'. Re the 'who it benefits most if believed' problem, I think there are those, that lead us, that do need to be held to account and propagating a view that we are 'too stupid' to know what is best for us anyway plays into the hands of those leaders who would rather not be held to account at all if it can be avoided. Similar thing with 'disinterest' - disinterest to me would seem to serve those same leaders who would prefer not to be held to account and thus I am wary of a narrative that promotes the idea that 'most people do not care' (about political decisions).
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