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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:31 pm

Have you tried them?
What do you think?
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:59 am

I have tried them.

Highlights - About 95% accurate compared to cigarettes. Huge savings. All the benefits of not smoking. Still dependent on nicotine though.

About two years ago, my smoking habit was escalating, and I would often smoke more than 20 cigs a day. I wanted to quit for ages and thought to give these e-cigs a try.

I didn't go for the cig-a-like e-cigs but an e-shisha. These can give you a superior vape and the long term costs are potentially cheaper compared to the cig-a-likes. I would say that you can get modifications which can make vaping 95% realistic compared to smoking tobacco. Realistic tobacco flavor, exhaling lots of vapor with a good throat hit. You don't feel short of breath or smell either. Within about two weeks, you will regain about a third more lung capacity, your taste buds will be more sensitive and your complexion will improve.

Don't switch from tobacco to an e-cig and vape strawberry or apple flavored e-liquids. Choose the equivalent tobacco flavor and nicotine strength as your original tobacco brand. Tobacco flavored e-liquid exist for most smoking brands. You have to keep in mind that an e-cig will stop you smoking however it will not eliminate the dependence on nicotine. You get all the benefits of stopping smoking from the moment you get it, without the withdrawal symptoms or cravings. You will save about 90% on the cost. But you will have to deal with your nicotine dependence which is now being delivered through the e-cig, instead of a cigarette later. It pays for itself from the savings of having to buy cigarettes in about 7-10 days. Depending on how much you spend on the mods compared to cigarettes of course. but that is a good general idea for an entry level e-cig for a one pack a day smoker. Anyone who smokes should try it. Anyone who wants to quit smoking should stop immediately and try this. Anyone who does not smoke should NOT start vaping e-liquids that contain nicotine.

I recommend buying two. each one should have a battery big enough to last you a whole day, when one is in use, the other can be recharged.

Another thing about vaping. unlike smoking a cigarette which has a clear start and finish, an e-cig does not. You can easily find yourself vaping too much. Which may bring on headaches so cut back and drink lots of water.
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:00 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Have you tried them?
What do you think?

Here is my list of devices for vaping. Aspire triton 2, Uwell crown, Kanger Mini Sub, Council of Vapour Vengeance, Council of Vapor Stratos, Council of Vapor Typhoon, Council of Vapor Royal Hunter and many more, I would say about £2000 worth of kits and liquid and worth every penny. For as long as I'm not smoking analogues all the money I spend on my e-cigs is money well spent.

Btw, I now mix my own juice. I am buying from the USA and in particular e-juice concentrates fro Hangsen. Try these flavours, you'll love them. Arabic Tobacco, Highway, No5. I have many more flavours being delivered from the states in a eek or so, I will list them.

If you are a smoker and want to give up then please try e-cigs, anything is better than those death cylinders.
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:19 am

...much controversy. A thoracic surgeon, while interviewed on the radio says that it causes far less harm, that if people were to smoke, such smoking is a better choice.

I have watched in several offices how the electronic cigarette is treated; it is far more efficient to allow someone to smoke at their desks, since there is no dirt involved to be cared for, and no hazard in the workplace for others involved. But, smoking itself has been stigmatised, also the argument of being too easy to conceal regarding the use by children; there will be laws to impose on this Liberty (as well as this Freedom) as well.

Personally, i don't like smoking. But i don't like even more, the lengths the authorities will go to limit choice, through prohibition. The public would be better served if a License could be obtained, like a Liquor License, so that through consumption such products can be enjoyed respectfully, recognising the harmful affects as well. Education is key, and putting a price on something, carefully evaluated to make sense.
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:12 am

Having lost a couple of relatives (barely reaching mid-life) to lung cancer from smoking, I would be the first to welcome any possible distancing from this damaging habit.

But signs are that e-cigarettes/vaping are being taken up by those who would normally have avoided cigarettes because of the cost and health risks.

Unfortunately, just as when tobacco-use first entered our cultures and was deemed 'safe'/healthy, these vapours entering people's lungs carrying any number of other chemicals in the guise of 'flavours' are probably going to be found to have ill-effects some 20 years down the line too.

- I'm actually quite angry about this introduction and the advertising going into it to trap young people!
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:55 pm

I consider myself a trapped victim of smoking.
I did not start it to show off, or to follow/mimic others when I was about 17.
I started because of severe insomnia problems. Before doing so I was fighting my problem with wine, half to one glass before going to bed. I just hated it,the bitter taste, the smell, everything about it-I never really digested alcoholics, but it offered me some solution.It was partly effective and I got headaches all day.

Cigarette smoking just solved my problem.However the 1-2 cigarettes before going to bed slowly increased to 20, then 30 then 40+ per day!! When I was younger I was able to "quit" for a week or so.I never really quited it completely, since the original insomnia problem would always strike me back, even during those periods that I was struggling all day not to smoke, I was yielding after sleepless nights at about 3-4 after midnight smoking 1 and sometimes 2 cigarettes one after the other. That was my cursed medicine, damn it!

My only other solution would of course to use pills like valium or serepax like many relatives mostly females were doing and ended up to zombies.

As time passed I totally lost the ability to even "quit" for one single day. I came to the point that enjoyable moments like having a cup of coffee and smoking a cigarette in the morning were no longer enjoyable.

Some 2 years ago my son bought an e-cig from Ovale, I think it was when these things started entering the market, and it was pretty expensive some 80 Euros. He and his girlfriend were using it for a few puffs, then got bored and just stopped. I tried it a few times and got choked.

To be continued...
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:29 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I consider myself a trapped victim of smoking.
I did not start it to show off, or to follow/mimic others when I was about 17.
I started because of severe insomnia problems. Before doing so I was fighting my problem with wine, half to one glass before going to bed. I just hated it,the bitter taste, the smell, everything about it-I never really digested alcoholics, but it offered me some solution.It was partly effective and I got headaches all day.

Cigarette smoking just solved my problem.However the 1-2 cigarettes before going to bed slowly increased to 20, then 30 then 40+ per day!! When I was younger I was able to "quit" for a week or so.I never really quited it completely, since the original insomnia problem would always strike me back, even during those periods that I was struggling all day not to smoke, I was yielding after sleepless nights at about 3-4 after midnight smoking 1 and sometimes 2 cigarettes one after the other. That was my cursed medicine, damn it!

My only other solution would of course to use pills like valium or serepax like many relatives mostly females were doing and ended up to zombies.

As time passed I totally lost the ability to even "quit" for one single day. I came to the point that enjoyable moments like having a cup of coffee and smoking a cigarette in the morning were no longer enjoyable.

Some 2 years ago my son bought an e-cig from Ovale, I think it was when these things started entering the market, and it was pretty expensive some 80 Euros. He and his girlfriend were using it for a few puffs, then got bored and just stopped. I tried it a few times and got choked.

To be continued...


ecigs will slowly take you away from cigs, but you're still addicted to nicotine and the smoking cigs habit can come back anytime. the one method i heard of is smoking marijuana whenever you get the urge to smoke cigs. the marijuana will dent the craving to nicotine, doing it for a week will get you off the nicotine addiction.
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:23 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Have you tried them?
What do you think?

Here is my list of devices for vaping. Aspire triton 2, Uwell crown, Kanger Mini Sub, Council of Vapour Vengeance, Council of Vapor Stratos, Council of Vapor Typhoon, Council of Vapor Royal Hunter and many more, I would say about £2000 worth of kits and liquid and worth every penny. For as long as I'm not smoking analogues all the money I spend on my e-cigs is money well spent.

Btw, I now mix my own juice. I am buying from the USA and in particular e-juice concentrates fro Hangsen. Try these flavours, you'll love them. Arabic Tobacco, Highway, No5. I have many more flavours being delivered from the states in a eek or so, I will list them.

If you are a smoker and want to give up then please try e-cigs, anything is better than those death cylinders.


I will come back to your post later Mr-from-ng for the moment I 'd like to say I 've done a lot of research on the matter of flavors, and really got shocked to learn that nearly all are just made for culinary use. It's one thing to eat a flavor extract and another to inhale it !!
I am therefore very suspicious of companies that produce thousands of flavors, no matter how nice they smell.
The only one I found that claims his flavors are made specifically for inhaling is this one here:
http://www.nicvape.com/
He provides chemical analysis certificates for every batch and guarantees the absence of 2 lung destroying substances.
Furthermore he produces about 40 flavors all in all.
If you try them let me know.
For the moment I am using liquid from Ovale, that being a pharmaceutical company ,should be more trusted. Still their European site only lists very few flavors, about 20 I think.
http://www.ovaleeurope.com/products-eliquids
Ovale are very expensive though 2-3 times any other make
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:29 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
ecigs will slowly take you away from cigs, but you're still addicted to nicotine and the smoking cigs habit can come back anytime. the one method i heard of is smoking marijuana whenever you get the urge to smoke cigs. the marijuana will dent the craving to nicotine, doing it for a week will get you off the nicotine addiction.



Oh nice :roll: :lol:
You don't want me to end up in jail, or a marijuana addict, or a marijuana+cigarette addict do you?
Marijuana is illegal here my friend, even the idea I would mess up with narcotics and drug dealers scares me.
Sorry.
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Re: Electronic cigarettes

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:53 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
ecigs will slowly take you away from cigs, but you're still addicted to nicotine and the smoking cigs habit can come back anytime. the one method i heard of is smoking marijuana whenever you get the urge to smoke cigs. the marijuana will dent the craving to nicotine, doing it for a week will get you off the nicotine addiction.



Oh nice :roll: :lol:
You don't want me to end up in jail, or a marijuana addict, or a marijuana+cigarette addict do you?
Marijuana is illegal here my friend, even the idea I would mess up with narcotics and drug dealers scares me.
Sorry.



You are already involved with narcotics, tobacco one of the most addictive substances on earth ,Marijuana is not addictive.. Being extreme is not a bad thing sometimes..drug dealers are normal people, just like a fridge/car salesman, don't worry about that..
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